[OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo is the host of FOSS4G not a guest

Randal Hale rjhale at northrivergeographic.com
Mon Jul 3 07:19:29 PDT 2017

Massimiliano - I have no doubt you are sending the emails for the right 
reason - BUT - to do this only 40 days out and call for a vote from the 
OSGEO board is disheartening. It is for me - This should have been a 
discussion for post-Boston - Not now. At least do it off channel with 
Michael and Guido before calling for a vote. For me to see this 
discussion start this close to the conference made me sigh - this is my 
first FOSS4G international conference and I am beyond excited and want 
all to be. Your original email  cast a cloud (though not intentional) 
over the work that Boston has done.

It is not unheard of for a organization that owns the conference to be a 
sponsor (at least here in the US). The longest running conference I 
attend - Georgia URISA   - does this every year. Not only do we fund it 
- we also pay for a booth because of paperwork. It's is important for 
Advertising purposes. It is important for us to interface to the 
attendees. It is important for us to share our story.

I wished the OSGEO presence at the North America conference was as 
strong as what is being shown at Boston. OSGEO has a great story to tell 
- take every opportunity you can to spread the good word be it as a 
sponsor, owner, or person with a sign discussing climate change.

I wish all of you a great FOSS4G 2017 conference.


On 07/03/2017 09:58 AM, Massimiliano Cannata wrote:
> Hi Guido,
> I don't understand why you are frustrated and disheartened by this 
> conversation.
> We're not discussing on climate changes :-D
> To All of you,
> (i swear it is my last mail in the tread - maybe -)
> My point of view is very simple: OSGeo is not a sponsor of the event, 
> is the "owner" which selected you great team and proposal for 
> organizing the conference. Thus is not correct list OSGeo in the 
> sponsor list.
> Try to open this link: http://2017.foss4g.org/sponsor/ and honestly 
> tell me if you understand OSGeo is the host, or do you get the 
> impression it is just one of the 20 sponsors?
> Since this fact has been part of discussions in the past, I believe it 
> is very important to be underlined and communicated to avoid 
> misunderstanding, also for the future FOSS4G conferences.
> I believe that details and communication are important (otherwise, for 
> example why spend time  and money in marketing and site re-branding?).
> And it has nothing to do with the great work you are doing in bringing 
> another wonderful foss4g (big big thanks). These are small (but not 
> negligible) details..
> I just requested the board to take a position on this, without 
> entering in details of when, what and why it happened.
> Then I will be happy whatever is the decision and will go on on doing 
> my contribution and work for OSGeo ;-)
> Ciao,
> Maxi
> 2017-07-03 14:29 GMT+02:00 Ian Turton <ijturton at gmail.com 
> <mailto:ijturton at gmail.com>>:
>     I have to disagree here, to me it is clear that OSGeo is
>     presenting ("owns") the conference while by listing the
>     contributions the OSGeo provides (seed money etc) formally on the
>     Sponsors' page/list it makes it clear just how much money (and
>     time) the OSGeo is putting it into the event.
>     By formally listing as a sponsor it probably makes it easier to
>     handle things like remembering to allocate booth space, passes etc
>     as it is already on the spreadsheet when those tasks are carried out.
>     Ian
>     On 2 July 2017 at 09:22, Massimiliano Cannata
>     <massimiliano.cannata at supsi.ch
>     <mailto:massimiliano.cannata at supsi.ch>> wrote:
>         Dear community and board members,
>         Today I found out that OSGeo is a a SPONSOR of the FOSS4G-2017
>         Boston conference.
>         This is disappointing me !
>         At least for two reasons:
>         1- foss4g is the OSGeo's conference, so OSGeo is the host not
>         a guest (have you ever seen AGU sponsoring it's annual event?)
>         2- OSGeo is already providing seed and risk exposure money so
>         it shouldn't need to pay for get exposure or being listed in
>         the sponsor page.
>         So, as an OSGeo charter member, I formally ask the board to
>         remove OSGeo from the sponsor list !
>         Regards
>         Maxi
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>     -- 
>     Ian Turton
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Randal Hale
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