[OSGeo-Discuss] Ideas for a future OSGeo Board

Massimiliano Cannata massimiliano.cannata at supsi.ch
Mon Oct 16 06:49:52 PDT 2017

i think that the concept of voting for positions is a concept borrowed from
democracy where everyone, including minorities are protected.
Otherwise, people that are in our community but have less "voluntary free
time" may see their rights (or vision) simply not considered because
do-ocracy do not have to ask for agreement, it just do it without asking

When a community grow, in numbers and complexity, I think that such aspects
need to be considered to avoid takeover and guarantee representatives.
Hierarchies guarantee to proceed quickly delegating someone to take care of
their vision. Openness allows anyone to participate in the democratic
In fact, also in project governance, we strive for a PSC or governing
bodies to decide strategic directions and if accept contributions...

My 2 cents,

2017-10-16 13:39 GMT+02:00 Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter at gmail.com>:

> Helmut,
> Your question is good, and I only have a partial answer which extends on
> Jody's response.
> I feel that while people are comfortable to openly disagree on technical
> concepts they feel very uncomfortable speaking ill of others on a personal
> level.
> Organically grown Open Source communities naturally form a hierarchy
> around principles of Meritocracy and Do-ocracy. There is not need for
> voting for positions, people naturally assume a role based on what they are
> doing. Open Source communities are successful if they master collaboration.
> The concept of voting for positions, as we do in elections, is a concept
> borrowed from command-and-control hierarchies, and I feel doesn't fit well
> with our Open Source ethos. I could expand, but I think I've written more
> than my quota on this email list for the moment.
> Cheers, Cameron
> On 15/10/17 12:54 pm, Jody Garnett wrote:
> I think Cameron described the reasoning, not wanting to disrupt
> relationships. Cameron is probably in an awkward position, as if often
> the case when people reach out privately, where he stuck determining if
> people are asking him to speak for them or they simply want someone to
> listen.
> OSGeo is an open and friendly community and we strive to have our
> communication and decision making in a transparent manner (the same
> standards we hold our project steering committees to during incubation).
> Nevertheless we have a number of private channels of communication in our
> organization, for example during charter member nominations there was an
> opportunity to contact the CRO privately if anyone was troubled by a
> nomination. During incubation we make a mentor available for private
> communication, as often there are legal questions to discuss. The projects
> have a private list for security vulnerabilities. The board also has a
> private email list which is useful for negotiating partner relationships.
> With respect to the board elections I really appreciate Gert-Jan's
> approach of asking candidates questions, it was illuminating, explored some
> important issues and gave everyone a chance to respond.
> --
> Jody Garnett
> On 14 October 2017 at 15:14, Helmut Kudrnovsky <hellik at web.de> wrote:
>> Cameron Shorter:
>> >I've had a number of people reach out to me privately, related to the
>> >upcoming OSGeo Board elections.
>> Cameron, any idea why a number of people aren't
>> articulating/communicating by themselves here on
>> the OSGeo discuss ML related to the upcoming OSGeo Board elections?
>> OSGeo, as I understand it, is an open and friendly community and every
>> discussion input is welcome.
>> kind regards
>> Helmut
>> OSGeo charter member
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