[OSGeo-Discuss] [Marketing] Proprietary GIS on our OSGeo website

Jody Garnett jody.garnett at gmail.com
Wed Sep 20 09:52:39 PDT 2017

Thanks Maria,

I reject the idea that we are advertising proprietary software, so each
time it is phrased that way of course everyone well say "no".

I want to help our software reach visitors that feel locked into
proprietary software, please recognize this goal and how "migrate from" can

Jody Garnett

On 20 September 2017 at 09:49, Maria Antonia Brovelli <
maria.brovelli at polimi.it> wrote:

> Dear Jody
> Personally I agree with Helmut and I don't see any necessity of putting
> "similar proprietary software" on our web pages. I don't think proprietary
> software need to be advertized. We are a Foundation about Open Software and
> I want to see the open source projects on the website that we have been
> paying as OSGeo.
> I ask please to remove the "similar proprietary software"  and the related
> links.
> Many thanks
> Best,
> Maria
> Inviato dal mio dispositivo Samsung
> -------- Messaggio originale --------
> Da: Jody Garnett <jody.garnett at gmail.com>
> Data: 20/09/17 14:45 (GMT+01:00)
> A: Margherita Di Leo <diregola at gmail.com>, Helmut Kudrnovsky <
> hellik at web.de>
> Cc: OSGeo Discussions <discuss at lists.osgeo.org>, OSGeo-Marketing <
> marketing at lists.osgeo.org>
> Oggetto: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Marketing] Proprietary GIS on our OSGeo
> website
> Thanks for the discussion on the bug report. Please keep in mind that this
> website is written by us, but it is not intended for us - it is intended
> for the vast majority of the GIS industry that has honestly not heard about
> open source yet.
> These sections are optional, if one of our open source projects has a
> particular target market in mind filling in this information would really
> help! Indeed when I go to a normal GIS conference this is the top question
> - since I have not had a chance to use the proprietary software it is not
> one I can easily answer.
> In the above bug report I would like to change the heading from "Similar
> Proprietary Products" to "Migrate From", but perhaps that is too
> confrontational? I would also like to avoid advertising proprietary
> software, linking to the associated wikipedia entry if appropriate.
> I am not interested in reciprocity, I am interested in OSGeo projects
> taking competition to the GIS industry which as been missing.
> On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 5:09 AM Margherita Di Leo <diregola at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 11:41 AM, Helmut Kudrnovsky <hellik at web.de>
>> wrote:
>>> Dear OSGeo community
>>> I want to bring you a discussion on a github ticket about linking to
>>> "similar proprietary products" [1] to your attention.
>>> My comment there:
>>> "I support and concur with Venka that the item "Similar Proprietary
>>> Products" should be removed. There isn't only one proprietary GIS software
>>> out there, there are several others. IMHO such comparisons may be part of
>>> e.g. a reviewed scientific paper/elaboration, where our OSGeo projects - if
>>> they want to - may link to. I see no added value for OSGeo to serve such
>>> links. As already elsewhere mentioned by me, reciprocity is the key if such
>>> items are listed, but I can't see this happen. "
>> I agree. I don't understand it either.
>>> I'm pretty much convinced that more effort to help our OSGeo projects
>>> improving on every level (e.g. documentation, reach out, testing, etc) is
>>> the key rather than linking to proprietary software. One of such
>>> opportunities may be the upcoming Google Code In (GCI) 2017 e.g. to produce
>>> nice screenshots for documentation, produce some fancy videos etc. based on
>>> tiny little tasks for students aged 13 to 17. A good invest in the young
>>> who will be our OSGeo's future.
>> Thanks for mentioning that, Helli. May I add that suitable tasks for
>> students may include design of web pages and / or promotional material, see
>> for example  https://codein.withgoogle.com/archive/2015/organization/4777
>> 925899452416/task/5259692246827008/
>> I take the liberty of cc'ing the marketing committee, because it would be
>> nice to see some members joining the code-in mentors pool. Let us know that
>> you want to join, writing an email to gsoc-admin at osgeo.org and I'll send
>> you the subscription form.
>> Hoping that I didn't go much off topic respect to the original meaning of
>> this email
>> Thank you
>> --
>> Margherita Di Leo
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