[OSGeo-Discuss] Proprietary GIS on our OSGeo website

Angelos Tzotsos gcpp.kalxas at gmail.com
Thu Sep 21 11:01:54 PDT 2017

Thank you Daniel,

On 09/21/2017 06:45 PM, Daniel Kastl wrote:
> I think "Switch2osm" is a very good example how to help migrating to
> non-proprietary tools: https://switch2osm.org/
> I quickly went through their site and as far as I could see, competitor
> names only appear in case studies.
> Maybe we could have "switch2foss" in a similar way.
> It's a very good idea to help new users to find open alternatives to the
> proprietary software they're using right now.
> I agree with many here, that this doesn't require to provide links to them.
> Best regards,
> Daniel
> On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 4:53 PM, Gert-Jan van der Weijden (OSGeo.nl) <
> gert-jan at osgeo.nl> wrote:
>> As a regular user of proprietary GIS software (ArcGIS, FME, Oracle Spatial
>> etcetera) I can assure that it is very valuable to have some sort of
>> guidance in the diversity of the FOSS landscape.
>> I agree that "similar proprietary products" isn't the right label.
>> However, instead of the proposed "migratte from" (which sound like a
>> complete migration plan) I'd suggest the label "comparable proprietary
>> software".
>> Kind regards,
>> Gert-Jan
>> María Arias de Reyna schreef op 21-09-2017 8:30:
>> On 20 September 2017 at 02:41, Helmut Kudrnovsky <hellik at web.de> wrote:
>>>>>> Dear OSGeo community
>>>>>> I want to bring you a discussion on a github ticket about linking to
>>>>>> "similar proprietary products" [1] to your attention.
>>>>>> My comment there:
>>>>>> "I support and concur with Venka that the item "Similar Proprietary
>>>>>> Products" should be removed. There isn't only one proprietary GIS
>>>>>> software
>>>>>> out there, there are several others. IMHO such comparisons may be part
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> e.g. a reviewed scientific paper/elaboration, where our OSGeo projects
>>>>>> - if
>>>>>> they want to - may link to. I see no added value for OSGeo to serve
>>>>>> such
>>>>>> links. As already elsewhere mentioned by me, reciprocity is the key if
>>>>>> such
>>>>>> items are listed, but I can't see this happen. "
>>>>>> I'm pretty much convinced that more effort to help our OSGeo projects
>>>>>> improving on every level (e.g. documentation, reach out, testing, etc)
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> the key rather than linking to proprietary software. One of such
>>>>>> opportunities may be the upcoming Google Code In (GCI) 2017 e.g. to
>>>>>> produce
>>>>>> nice screenshots for documentation, produce some fancy videos etc.
>>>>>> based on
>>>>>> tiny little tasks for students aged 13 to 17. A good invest in the
>>>>>> young who
>>>>>> will be our OSGeo's future.
>>>>>> Kind regards
>>>>>> Helmut
>>>>>> OSGeo charter member
>>>>>> [1] https://github.com/OSGeo/osgeo/issues/100
>>>>>> [2] https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2017-September/
>>>>>> 036217.html
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>>> Hi,
>>> On my opinion, it makes sense to show relation between propietary and
>>> free and open software. Just because we want to people to migrate to
>>> free and open source software, so it is good if they can search for
>>> the software they are currently using to know what software will they
>>> use. It makes sense, it makes life easier on migrations.
>>> Said this, I prefer the "Migrate from" label much better. And sure, no
>>> link to the product, just the name. Why would we need a link? If they
>>> don't know what that software is, the information is useless to them.
>>> If they already know what that software is, the information is
>>> redundant. So having a name is fine, having a link is nonsense.
>>> Is "Migrate from" label aggresive? Not at all. We are OsGeo, we are
>>> promoting FLOSS. Promoting FLOSS means we are encouraging people to
>>> move from propietary to open. That is our philosophy, that is our
>>> motto. If propietary software feels bad because we follow our goals...
>>> well, then maybe they should stop promoting their own software too
>>> because that makes me feel bad.
>>> Regards,
>>> María.
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Angelos Tzotsos, PhD
Charter Member
Open Source Geospatial Foundation

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