[OSGeo-Discuss] Proprietary GIS on our OSGeo website

Jody Garnett jody.garnett at gmail.com
Thu Sep 21 12:00:43 PDT 2017

Thanks that is a great example - this is the roll I hope that http://osgeo.
getinteractive.nl/choose-a-project/ will play (now that is actually working

I am happy to try an experiment and see if this is sufficient, I just do
not want to lose track of the vision that we are helping non-community
members connect with open source.

I am sorry this discussion started over links, which look to of been added
to the beta website by mistake. I do not mind naming competitor products,
in case studies, migration guides, or "even" on project pages. In the case
of project pages it is up to each project steering committee what they want
to do.

Jody Garnett

On 21 September 2017 at 08:45, Daniel Kastl <daniel at georepublic.de> wrote:

> I think "Switch2osm" is a very good example how to help migrating to
> non-proprietary tools: https://switch2osm.org/
> I quickly went through their site and as far as I could see, competitor
> names only appear in case studies.
> Maybe we could have "switch2foss" in a similar way.
> It's a very good idea to help new users to find open alternatives to the
> proprietary software they're using right now.
> I agree with many here, that this doesn't require to provide links to
> them.
> Best regards,
> Daniel
> On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 4:53 PM, Gert-Jan van der Weijden (OSGeo.nl) <
> gert-jan at osgeo.nl> wrote:
>> As a regular user of proprietary GIS software (ArcGIS, FME, Oracle
>> Spatial etcetera) I can assure that it is very valuable to have some sort
>> of guidance in the diversity of the FOSS landscape.
>> I agree that "similar proprietary products" isn't the right label.
>> However, instead of the proposed "migratte from" (which sound like a
>> complete migration plan) I'd suggest the label "comparable proprietary
>> software".
>> Kind regards,
>> Gert-Jan
>> María Arias de Reyna schreef op 21-09-2017 8:30:
>> On 20 September 2017 at 02:41, Helmut Kudrnovsky <hellik at web.de> wrote:
>>>>>> Dear OSGeo community
>>>>>> I want to bring you a discussion on a github ticket about linking to
>>>>>> "similar proprietary products" [1] to your attention.
>>>>>> My comment there:
>>>>>> "I support and concur with Venka that the item "Similar Proprietary
>>>>>> Products" should be removed. There isn't only one proprietary GIS
>>>>>> software
>>>>>> out there, there are several others. IMHO such comparisons may be
>>>>>> part of
>>>>>> e.g. a reviewed scientific paper/elaboration, where our OSGeo
>>>>>> projects - if
>>>>>> they want to - may link to. I see no added value for OSGeo to serve
>>>>>> such
>>>>>> links. As already elsewhere mentioned by me, reciprocity is the key
>>>>>> if such
>>>>>> items are listed, but I can't see this happen. "
>>>>>> I'm pretty much convinced that more effort to help our OSGeo projects
>>>>>> improving on every level (e.g. documentation, reach out, testing,
>>>>>> etc) is
>>>>>> the key rather than linking to proprietary software. One of such
>>>>>> opportunities may be the upcoming Google Code In (GCI) 2017 e.g. to
>>>>>> produce
>>>>>> nice screenshots for documentation, produce some fancy videos etc.
>>>>>> based on
>>>>>> tiny little tasks for students aged 13 to 17. A good invest in the
>>>>>> young who
>>>>>> will be our OSGeo's future.
>>>>>> Kind regards
>>>>>> Helmut
>>>>>> OSGeo charter member
>>>>>> [1] https://github.com/OSGeo/osgeo/issues/100
>>>>>> [2] https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2017-September/036
>>>>>> 217.html
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>>> Hi,
>>> On my opinion, it makes sense to show relation between propietary and
>>> free and open software. Just because we want to people to migrate to
>>> free and open source software, so it is good if they can search for
>>> the software they are currently using to know what software will they
>>> use. It makes sense, it makes life easier on migrations.
>>> Said this, I prefer the "Migrate from" label much better. And sure, no
>>> link to the product, just the name. Why would we need a link? If they
>>> don't know what that software is, the information is useless to them.
>>> If they already know what that software is, the information is
>>> redundant. So having a name is fine, having a link is nonsense.
>>> Is "Migrate from" label aggresive? Not at all. We are OsGeo, we are
>>> promoting FLOSS. Promoting FLOSS means we are encouraging people to
>>> move from propietary to open. That is our philosophy, that is our
>>> motto. If propietary software feels bad because we follow our goals...
>>> well, then maybe they should stop promoting their own software too
>>> because that makes me feel bad.
>>> Regards,
>>> María.
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