[OSGeo-Discuss] Mailing lists to discourse migration

Wed Dec 27 08:36:40 PST 2023

Hi all

I am sending you a link about how discourse treats the users
https://blog.discourse.org/2018/06/understanding-discourse-trust-levels/

On Wed, Dec 27, 2023 at 10:00 AM Eli Adam <eadam at co.lincoln.or.us> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm also unclear on what is going on.  It looks like discourse options are
> being added.  This raises questions about mailing lists.  1. Are mailing
> lists going away?
>

No, they are not going away
We are just giving options, different communities have different needs
Different people have different ways of working together
This
[1] https://discourse.osgeo.org/c/pgrouting/pgrouting-dev/17
is a mirror of
[2] https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/pgrouting-dev/
As you can see on [2] you can not reply you can only browse the mail
archives.
On [1] happens the same.
The only way to have a reply is by sending a mail to the corresponding
mailing list

here:
[3] https://discourse.osgeo.org/c/qgis/qgis-fr-user/5
the QGIS french group of users decided that discourse was better for them
and they will not use the mailing list anymore
So the mailing list was moved and we are giving a month's time for people
to go to discourse.
Anything arriving to the mailing list at this moment of time is not going
to be published in discourse. Because it is not a mirror, on it people can
reply using discourse or sending a mail to qgis-fr-users at
discourse.osgeo.org
but the mailing list archives will be kept

Of course, for obvious reasons, I can not git you a link to a private
mailing lists
They want to remain private and want to remain on the mailing list.
But another example, pgRouting did not have a public/private mailing list
for its PSC, and we opted to have a private category within discourse.
Already there but you can not see it, you are not part of the group that
can see that category.

2. Can projects choose to keep just the mailing list and not add dicourse?
>

Yes!
Also they can have a category on discourse without a mailing list, but with
a discourse mail
Like this one:
https://discourse.osgeo.org/t/about-the-sac-website-category/301
(read about the trust levels)

Regards
Vicky

> Thanks, Eli
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Discuss <discuss-bounces at lists.osgeo.org> on behalf of Vicky
> Vergara via Discuss <discuss at lists.osgeo.org>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 26, 2023 9:52 PM
> *To:* OSGeo Discussions <discuss at lists.osgeo.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Mailing lists to discourse migration
>
> Hi Jody,
>
> On Tue, Dec 26, 2023 at 9:31 PM Jody Garnett <jody.garnett at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Vicky,
>
> Is there any more information on what is being offered here?
>
> I have not used discourse very much. What do you mean by having a category
> Can you be more clear about migrate and mirror.
>
>
> Category, is like the one you created about the discourse site feedback.
> Mirror, is a category that mirrors the mailing list, so the mails received
> on the mailing list are also shown on discourse.
> If you "reply" to those mails using discourse, they will not be shown on
> the mailing list, as the mirror does not send mails to the mailing list.
> The reply that will be shown is the one done using mail.
>
>
> Will the existing list of email subscribers be part of migrating a mailing
> list
>
>
> When migrating subscribers are also migrated and are "staged users", and
> they can log in using ldap, or github account.
> If the mail of their log in matches, the staged users get assigned to the
> person that logged in.
>
> Regards
> Vicky
>
>
> --
> Jody Garnett
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 26, 2023 at 1:07 PM Vicky Vergara via Discuss <
> discuss at lists.osgeo.org> wrote:
>
> Hello all
>
> We are ready to migrate mailing lists to discourse,
> * Have the mailing list migrated completely to discourse
> * Have a mirror of the mailing in discourse
> * Have a category on discourse and not have a mailing list
> * Opt to not migrate or mirror the mailing list
>
> A comprehensive list of mailing lists can be found here (not including
> private mailing lists):
> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo
>
> You need to open a ticket to have the work done.
> Follow the ticket examples below for the first 3 cases
>
> Regards
> Vicky Vergara
>
> Example: Have the mailing list migrated completely to discourse:
>
> Ticket: https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/3064 (has link to ticket 3063)
> +
> Comment in Ticket: https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/3063
>
> Created the following discourse category
> https://discourse.osgeo.org/c/qgis/qgis-fr-user/5
> And the archives of the mailing list will not be removed:
> https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/qgis-fr-user/
> Migration has finished so any new message to the list will not be received
> on discourse, but the list will be disabled for before the end of january.
> Mail on discourse: qgis-fr-user/@discourse.osgeo.org
>
> Example: Have a mirror of the mailing in discourse
> Ticket: https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/3062
> Created the following discourse category
> https://discourse.osgeo.org/c/sac-global-category/sac/13
> The mailing list will not be removed, and it is a mirror to the mailing
> list
> emails continue to be sent to sac at lists.osgeo.org
> Replies can be done
>
> https://discourse.osgeo.org/t/re-osgeo-3062-import-sac-mailing-list-to-discourse/4747/2?u=cvvergara
> But they will no be reflected on the mailing list
> https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/sac/2023-December/thread.html
>
> Example: of category without mailing list
> Ticket: https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/3066
> https://discourse.osgeo.org/c/osgeolive/osgeolive-docs/8
>
>
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