[OSGeo-Edu] Re-starting our discussions

Tue Jan 6 08:22:24 EST 2009

Happy New Year everyone....

Tyler, looks terrific! Thank you for your efforts. I've only looked at the input
forms but will try them out soon.

Others on this list -- This is a great chance to inventory new content that
could be used to inventory material for the DVD others affiliated with OSGeo are
creating. Recall that Mark Leslie listed these as the packages going on the DVD:

   PostgreSQL 8.3.5 / PostGIS 1.3.3-1
   GeoServer 1.7.0
   MapServer 5.0.0-3
   GRASS 6.3.0-0
   QGIS 0.11.0-Metis
   gvSIG 1.1.2
   uDig 1.1.1
   OpenLayers 2.6 (included with the GeoServer installation)

I have some material for QGIS 0.11.0 Metis which I will post to this new
database search engine. Does anyone else have any tutorials to contribute to
this effort?

Thanks
Charlie

Quoting "Tyler Mitchell (OSGeo)" <tmitchell at osgeo.org>:

> Hi all,
> I spent a bit of time to clean up a few more of the fields and the
> search capabilities of the inventory tools.   Not beautiful, but
> functional :)  CSS gurus are welcome to contact me to help improve
> the look and feel.
>
> Search/view: http://www.osgeo.org/educational_content
> Submit content: https://www.osgeo.org/node/add/edu-content
>
> I left one primary contact email address and reduce the Author(s)
> line to a single line instead of several.  In a few spots I tried to
> simply make the form feel shorter.
>
> Any more ideas?  If a few of us could copy/enter a few items from the
> wiki into here, it would help our search tests look better ;-)
>
>
> Tyler
>
> On 15-Dec-08, at 9:21 PM, Mark Leslie wrote:
>
> > I've been hanging back on this to avoid getting sucked into another
> > development project :(  From my perspective I really just need some
> > means of searching or summarizing what's available, what it
> > pertains to, technical depth, format, blah, blah, blah.  Once I can
> > easily sift through what's there, there is more work it selecting
> > it out and getting it packaged up properly for installation.
> >
> > The sorting by product and language was a minimal thing.  The age
> > of the material is fairly important, as is the format, so having
> > the entry form to ensure structured data and a search form is ideal.
> >
> > Feedback on the form at https://www.osgeo.org/node/add/edu-content:
> >
> > * There are multiple authors, but only one contact email.  Is it
> > appropriate to have an email for each author, and is there a need
> > to have a contact that is not the author.
> > * Target Audience as selection fields is very nice.
> > * Language could be a dropdown.  Alternately, we would need case
> > insensitive search capability.
> > * There's potential redundancy, or maybe a need for redundancy,
> > between keyword and software.  I would expect a keyword search for
> > 'QGIS' to find QGIS related material, but I wouldn't expect to
> > enter it in both software AND keyword.
> >
> > I'm getting pedantic now, so I'm going to move on to the search:
> >
> > As near as I can tell, the current search performs text searching
> > on the Authors list.  I like the simplicity of the interface, but
> > we need to sort out what to search, and I don't think it should be
> > every field. Maybe the title, keywords, software and language by
> > default, with an option to include the description.  This really
> > depends on what the search is capable of doing, and what we want to
> > spend time doing.
> >
> >
> > Mark Leslie
> > Geospatial Software Architect
> > LISAsoft
> >
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> >
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> >
> >
> > cschweik at pubpol.umass.edu wrote:
> >> Thanks Landon. I'm caught up in end of semester stuff right now.
> >> Quoting Sunburned Surveyor <sunburned.surveyor at gmail.com>:
> >>> What is our goal here?
> >> Three things have led me to think we need a new educational
> >> inventory delivery
> >> mechanism:
> >> (1) We've maxed out the wikipage. A while back Maria B. tried to
> >> add a new entry
> >> and the wiki warned her that we've reached the length limit.
> >> (2) In wanting to start organizing material we have for the DVD
> >> project, Mark
> >> Leslie mentioned that the current Educational_Content_Inventory
> >> [1] page
> >> "structure makes it hard to quickly scan through."
> >> (3) I'd like to get more actual content uploaded on the Subversion
> >> system so we
> >> can make progress toward "new derivatives." For example, if we
> >> have the source
> >> content for a particular tutorial, we can start to ask OSGeo local
> >> groups to
> >> start translating.
> >> So, I think the goal is to develop a SEARCHABLE DATABASE OF
> >> TUTORIAL METADATA
> >> WITH LINKS TO EITHER SUBVERSION SOURCE OR LINKS TO THE URLS OF
> >> EXTERNAL
> >> LOCATIONS.
> >> So this would require two pages:
> >> 1) a page for authors to enter (and edit) their metadata into the
> >> database; and
> >> 2) a page for people to search for content that we have inventoried.
> >> Finally, since I imagine this is a deep web application that
> >> Google won't
> >> inventory, I wonder if we still want the wiki page so people can
> >> find our
> >> material via Google searches as well.
> >> Does that help? Let me know if my vision seems flawed in some way.
> >> Tyler will have to chime in on how this is stored. Tyler, can you
> >> and Landon
> >> work together to implement this? How much work will it take? Can
> >> we get a goal
> >> for when it might be completed? I'm happy to help on design stuff
> >> if needed.
> >> Cheers
> >> Charlie
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