[FOSS4G-Oceania-discuss] FOSS4G-Oceania-Discuss Digest, Vol 3, Issue 2

[Martin Tomko]

+1 exactly my thoughts. I agree to add the sentence that parents are at all times responsible ( well, they are by law, so it is a bit of a redundance).
I just wanted to make clear that I perceive the assistance of a child in distress basic humanity, not special behaviour, too.
Martin

From: adam steer <adam.d.steer at gmail.com>
Date: Monday, 10 September 2018 at 10:01 am
To: Martin Tomko <tomkom at unimelb.edu.au>
Cc: "foss4g-oceania-discuss at lists.osgeo.org" <foss4g-oceania-discuss at lists.osgeo.org>
Subject: Re: [FOSS4G-Oceania-discuss] FOSS4G-Oceania-Discuss Digest, Vol 3, Issue 2

hey Martin

The concern of feeling ‘being made responsible’ for another’s child is worth addressing. As I wrote that part of the document, I saw no different from looking after adults in the same situation; but then I am also a parent - and have the imprimatur of parenthood to fall on (this can be important! some parents will respond differently if they see a parent vs non-parent interacting with their children)

However - I can see that others (especially without kids; or with different views of what parenting is about) may have different ideas. A short clarification is really all that is required; which Cameron has addressed.

We realised at no point in the document had we explicitly stated that parents are responsible for their children; and we don’t expect other conference-goers to assume that responsibility. I think this is the whole crux of the concern.

So yes - we want to be the community we want to see!  We also want to encourage everyone along on the ride ( historically as we all know, I’m terrible at that! ) - which means we need to find ways to be more clear about some things without being overly proscriptive.

I think it’ll be great; and work well - as long as we can get clear and open communication along all the way. And a bit of patience and tolerance from all parties.

Cheers

Adam




On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 at 09:40, Martin Tomko <tomkom at unimelb.edu.au<mailto:tomkom at unimelb.edu.au>> wrote:
I have to say I am puzzled why this is a contentious issue.
"• Assist. If you see a child looking lost or distressed, get down to their level and ask them how you can help. Find a conference volunteer to hand over to."

I believe this is standard, humane, and compassionate behaviour. I fear a society where an adult would not assist a child in distress. This is verbatim what it says (IFF you see a child LOST or DISTRESSED).
One that would be expected from anyone anywhere, on the street or at a conference. It does not relieve parents from responsibility, just assures we do not have minors walking around lost ( which can happen).

Let's think what kind of world we want, and then start by making this true for our conference first.

Martin


On 10/9/18, 5:00 am, "FOSS4G-Oceania-Discuss on behalf of foss4g-oceania-discuss-request at lists.osgeo.org<mailto:foss4g-oceania-discuss-request at lists.osgeo.org>" <foss4g-oceania-discuss-bounces at lists.osgeo.org<mailto:foss4g-oceania-discuss-bounces at lists.osgeo.org> on behalf of foss4g-oceania-discuss-request at lists.osgeo.org<mailto:foss4g-oceania-discuss-request at lists.osgeo.org>> wrote:

    • Assist. If you see a child looking lost or distressed, get down to their level and ask them how you can help. Find a conference volunteer to hand over to.

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