[FOSS4G-Oceania] Proposed OSGeo stack beginner workshop, based on OSGeo-Live, presented at FOSS4G
Cameron Shorter
cameron.shorter at gmail.com
Wed Jul 4 04:38:08 PDT 2018
John, I'm looping in the foss4g conference committee via our public
email list. I wouldn't be surprised if a few will jump in with suggestions.
I'm hoping to be able to catch you tomorrow.
Cheers, Cameron
On 3/7/18 7:53 pm, Hildebrandt, John wrote:
>
> Yes the Geoserver workshop talks to leveraging a collection of
> services together to deliver a HA deployment so would be a good match
>
> Yes happy for you to discuss with the committee memebrs.
>
> Regards
>
> Thoughts on our interaction? Provide Feedback here
> <https://feedback.aws.amazon.com/?ea=johnhild&fn=John&ln=Hildebrandt>.
>
> John Hildebrandt Principal Solutions Architect, Public Sector, Amazon
> Web Services http://aws.amazon.com <http://aws.amazon.com/>
>
> E johnhild at amazon.com <mailto:johnhild at amazon.com> | M +61 428 968 555
>
> *From:*S Kolo <kolomes at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, July 2, 2018 2:47 PM
> *To:* Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* Hildebrandt, John <johnhild at amazon.com>
> *Subject:* Re: Proposed OSGeo stack beginner workshop, based on
> OSGeo-Live, presented at FOSS4G
>
> Thanks Cameron,
>
> John - Ive implemented full SDI stacks in my work place (using
> virtualised infrastructure) and was hoping to take this knowledge into
> using AWS / Cloud services space.
>
> From a client perspective seeing how the components work in themselves
> is nice, seeing how they work in combo is better but importantly being
> able to adequately answer the questions " so when do I need component
> <x>" and "when would I use components <x><y> and <z>" of even more
> value. We are seeing more and more of our data migrate into the cloud
> so having an awareness of how to effectively leverage this would be great,
>
> Thoughts ?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Shaun
>
> On Sun, Jul 1, 2018 at 10:54 PM Cameron Shorter
> <cameron.shorter at gmail.com <mailto:cameron.shorter at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi John, would be great to have a chat, although I'm traveling
> till Tuesday and will likely be hard to catch before Wednesday.
>
> Workshops are presentation selection will be largely selected by
> the community. I think what you are suggesting will be well received.
>
> I'm interested to hear Shaun's thoughts and assuming you are ok
> with it, I'd like to discuss with other committee members.
>
> All the best,
>
> Cameron
>
> On 1/7/18 3:30 pm, Hildebrandt, John wrote:
>
> Cameron
>
> Yes I would be interested in presenting at the FOSS4G
> conference in Melbourne. I could run my Geoserver on AWS
> workshop plus we did 2 presentations and another workshop at
> FOSS4G-NA that might be of interest.
>
> We have a free tier for user with details here:
> https://aws.amazon.com/free/
>
> Students and Staff can get free access via the AWS Educate
> program: https://aws.amazon.com/education/awseducate/
>
> Researchers can apply for credits here:
> https://aws.amazon.com/research-credits/
>
> Startups can leverage the AWS Activate program:
> https://aws.amazon.com/activate/
>
> You can use VM Import to import your VM image see
> https://aws.amazon.com/ec2/vm-import/.
>
> There are other options you might like to look at as well for
> hosting Geospatial applications.
>
> Happy to chat further during the week.
>
> Regards
>
> Thoughts on our interaction? Provide Feedback here
> <https://feedback.aws.amazon.com/?ea=johnhild&fn=John&ln=Hildebrandt>.
>
> John Hildebrandt Principal Solutions Architect, Public Sector,
> Amazon Web Services http://aws.amazon.com <http://aws.amazon.com/>
>
> *From:*Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter at gmail.com>
> <mailto:cameron.shorter at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, June 29, 2018 8:53 PM
> *To:* Hildebrandt, John <johnhild at amazon.com>
> <mailto:johnhild at amazon.com>
> *Cc:* Shaun Kolomeitz <kolomes at gmail.com>
> <mailto:kolomes at gmail.com>
> *Subject:* Re: Proposed OSGeo stack beginner workshop, based
> on OSGeo-Live, presented at FOSS4G
>
> There are multiple possibilities, and I'm interested to gauge
> your level of interest and ability to commit.
>
> 1. I understand you have created a OSGeo workshop. Do you
> still have access to the material? Are you interested in
> sharing it? Ideally under some open license. I assume the
> material will need to be updated to the latest versions of
> software. Would you be interested in helping do this? Would
> you be ok with someone else updating your material? Would you
> be interested in presenting at the FOSS4G conference in Melbourne?
>
> 2. For OSGeo workshops, there is potential to tailor them to
> work within the cloud. Is there some arrangement that could be
> set up to have free student accounts to support this?
>
> 3. OSGeoLive is a Lubuntu linux distribution with 50 odd open
> source GIS applications + data + project overviews and
> quickstarts. It is regularly used within FOSS4G workshops,
> booted from a USB, Virtual Machine (and sometimes from a DVD).
> It would be great if we could extend it to work within the
> cloud. I'm not sure how achievable this would be, or how much
> work would be involved. It would be great to tap into your
> experience in helping answer some of these questions.
>
> Hopefully there is a good business case for AWS to support
> these initiatives. Effectively it would be training GIS people
> how to use AWS.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> On 29/6/18 8:36 pm, Hildebrandt, John wrote:
>
> Cameron
>
> Sounds like a great idea keen to understand more and how
> you think we might be able to help.
>
> Regards
>
> Thoughts on our interaction? Provide Feedback here
> <https://feedback.aws.amazon.com/?ea=johnhild&fn=John&ln=Hildebrandt>.
>
> John Hildebrandt Principal Solutions Architect, Public
> Sector, Amazon Web Services http://aws.amazon.com
> <http://aws.amazon.com/>
>
> *From:*Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter at gmail.com>
> <mailto:cameron.shorter at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, June 29, 2018 4:46 PM
> *To:* Hildebrandt, John <johnhild at amazon.com>
> <mailto:johnhild at amazon.com>
> *Cc:* Shaun Kolomeitz <kolomes at gmail.com>
> <mailto:kolomes at gmail.com>
> *Subject:* Re: Proposed OSGeo stack beginner workshop,
> based on OSGeo-Live, presented at FOSS4G
>
> On 29/6/18 4:43 pm, Cameron Shorter wrote:
>
> Hi John,
>
> Thanks for getting back. Below are some of the emails
> that we have been trading around the idea of creating
> an OSGeo stack beginner workshop, making use of
> OSGeoLive, and potentially taking it all to the cloud.
>
> It would be great to loop you in on these
> conversations. As Shaun has noticed, you have shown
> how to get OSGeo in the cloud in a workshop. We'd be
> keen to work out how we can build upon that.
>
> All the best,
>
> Cameron
>
> On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 8:10 PM Cameron Shorter
> <cameron.shorter at gmail.com
> <mailto:cameron.shorter at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi folks,
>
> Shaun Kolomeitz and myself were recently discussing
> the value that could
> be gained by setting up a "beginners OSGeo full stack"
> workshop, which
> served multiple needs and communities.
>
> It would aim to help new users answer "when, what and
> how should I use
> Open Source GIS".
>
> Initially we would target a workshop at FOSS4G-Oceania
> [1] (in Melbourne
> Australia in November 2018)
>
> The aim would be to build upon OSGeo-Live [2], with
> the intent that the
> training material would eventually become distributed
> with OSGeo-Live.
> This brings the advantage that the training course
> would be continually
> be getting updated with every software distribution,
> and setup glitches
> would be significantly reduced because everything
> would be pre-installed
> with OSGeo-Live.
>
> Ideally, we would be this course to be run on the
> cloud. Again, the
> advantage here is that we would be taking OSGeo-Live
> (along with OSGeo
> applications) into a cloud environment.
>
> In future versions, we would aim to team up with
> geo4all, universities
> and educators, such that we can integrate OSGeo-Live
> and courses, and
> help cross collaboration and maintenance between
> projects, programmers
> and educators.
>
> The first thing we want to do is work out if anyone is
> doing something
> similar, or have material we can make use of, or have
> good ideas that we
> should incorporate, or who would like to join us.
>
> Introducing Shaun:
>
> For those who don't know Shaun, he is someone I've
> known for years. He
> has decades of experience with GIS, is an advocate
> Open Source GIS, and
> is someone who has a track record of getting things done.
>
> [1] http://foss4g-oceania.org/
>
> [2] http://live.osgeo.org <http://live.osgeo.org/>
>
> On 29/6/18 9:33 am, S Kolo wrote:
>
> Cameron,
>
> No, I haven't yet. Just accessing the free AWS
> servers requires credit card details (which I’m
> nervous at giving them).
>
> I haven’t heard from anyone about the workshop
> idea except for the request to make it project
> focused.
>
> That would be great if you want to reach out.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Shaun
>
> On Fri, 29 Jun 2018 at 9:29 am, Cameron Shorter
> <cameron.shorter at gmail.com
> <mailto:cameron.shorter at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hey Shaun,
>
> Have you had any luck connecting with AWS? I
> just noticed that two of the presenters live
> here in Australia. Herman Coomans even lives
> in Melbourne. I reckon we might be able to
> convince them to come along to the upcoming
> FOSS4G workshop.
>
> If you haven't reached out to them, I'll do so
> now.
>
> https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-hildebrandt-a134332
>
> https://www.linkedin.com/in/hermancoomans/
>
> On 25/6/18 9:34 am, S Kolo wrote:
>
> Thanks Cameron,
>
> The report looks good.
>
> Ive got some time this week so have
> started doing my research.
>
> It would be great if I could get my hands
> on the docs (or even a video) for this -
> https://2018.foss4g-na.org/session/introduction-running-auto-scaling-geoserver-and-postgresqlpostgis-cloud-aws
>
> Ive joined the Brisbane Amazon Web
> Services interest group here to see if I
> can discuss techy stuff with them in terms
> of SDI. Maybe I can get away with a free
> site to do the testing initially.
>
> I'll join the foss4g-oceania and osgeolive
> list groups.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Shaun
>
> On Sun, Jun 24, 2018 at 8:27 AM Cameron
> Shorter <cameron.shorter at gmail.com
> <mailto:cameron.shorter at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi Shaun,
>
> It was great to talk with you
> yesterday. Your enthusiasm is contagious.
>
> I love the idea of creating full stack
> Open Source training material.
>
> I put a proposal together for the UN
> to fund comprehensive training
> material here:
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/19Di-WxImfPq5oF2jeBblxNjY0JYJoXegLc5jaTPjufM/edit#heading=h.g1mf7fn4rfea
>
> This proposal never got up, but I
> think it has a lot of principles we
> can draw upon.
>
> I think that the formula we aim toward is:
>
> 1. Create a "Lightning OSGeo Stack
> Workshop"
>
> 2. Start with the OSGeo-Live
> distribution, with the intent that we
> will get our material into the
> OSGeo-Live distribution. I can
> facilitate that. http://live.osgeo.org
>
> 3. Take one example through
> Postgres/PostGIS, GeoServer/GeoNode,
> QGIS, OpenLayers/Leaflet.
>
> 4. Target presenting at a FOSS4G
> workshop, which is a 3 hour slot. (We
> might ask to get 2 x 3 hour slots - we
> can decide that later).
>
> 5. Aim to make the workshop
> sustainable, but inviting the
> community use review it, use it,
> update it. I can help facilitate that.
>
> The email lists I sit on, and which I
> think we can target are:
>
> *
> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/osgeolive
> : Where we can get into the OSGeo-Live
> distribution
>
> *
> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
> : Potential source of collaborators
> from specific projects
>
> *
> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/foss4g-oceania
> : To get us a slot at
> FOSS4G-Melbourne, and find Australian
> workshop collaborators.
>
> *
> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/geoforall
> : Universities. More talk than action,
> but potential source of collaborators
>
> *
> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/un
> : UN sponsored some training material
> we might want to use and get
> collaboration. Action here seems to be
> hidden within different companies.
>
> If you only join one list, I'd say the
> foss4g-oceania is probably the one to
> join (initially), followed by osgeolive.
>
>
--
Cameron Shorter
Technology Demystifier
Open Technologies and Geospatial Consultant
M +61 (0) 419 142 254
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