[FOSS4G-Oceania] Proposed OSGeo stack beginner workshop, based on OSGeo-Live, presented at FOSS4G

Cameron Shorter cameron.shorter at gmail.com
Wed Jul 4 04:38:08 PDT 2018


John, I'm looping in the foss4g conference committee  via our public 
email list. I wouldn't be surprised if a few will jump in with suggestions.

I'm hoping to be able to catch you tomorrow.

Cheers, Cameron


On 3/7/18 7:53 pm, Hildebrandt, John wrote:
>
> Yes the Geoserver workshop talks to leveraging a collection of 
> services together to deliver a HA deployment so would be a good match
>
> Yes happy for you to discuss with the committee memebrs.
>
> Regards
>
> Thoughts on our interaction? Provide Feedback here 
> <https://feedback.aws.amazon.com/?ea=johnhild&fn=John&ln=Hildebrandt>.
>
> John Hildebrandt Principal Solutions Architect, Public Sector, Amazon 
> Web Services http://aws.amazon.com <http://aws.amazon.com/>
>
> E johnhild at amazon.com <mailto:johnhild at amazon.com> | M +61 428 968 555
>
> *From:*S Kolo <kolomes at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, July 2, 2018 2:47 PM
> *To:* Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* Hildebrandt, John <johnhild at amazon.com>
> *Subject:* Re: Proposed OSGeo stack beginner workshop, based on 
> OSGeo-Live, presented at FOSS4G
>
> Thanks Cameron,
>
> John - Ive implemented full SDI stacks in my work place (using 
> virtualised infrastructure) and was hoping to take this knowledge into 
> using AWS / Cloud services space.
>
> From a client perspective seeing how the components work in themselves 
> is nice, seeing how they work in combo is better but importantly being 
> able to adequately answer the questions " so when do I need component 
> <x>" and "when would I use components <x><y> and <z>" of even more 
> value. We are seeing more and more of our data migrate into the cloud 
> so having an awareness of how to effectively leverage this would be great,
>
> Thoughts ?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Shaun
>
> On Sun, Jul 1, 2018 at 10:54 PM Cameron Shorter 
> <cameron.shorter at gmail.com <mailto:cameron.shorter at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Hi John, would be great to have a chat, although I'm traveling
>     till Tuesday and will likely be hard to catch before Wednesday.
>
>     Workshops are presentation selection will be largely selected by
>     the community. I think what you are suggesting will be well received.
>
>     I'm interested to hear Shaun's thoughts and assuming you are ok
>     with it, I'd like to discuss with other committee members.
>
>     All the best,
>
>     Cameron
>
>     On 1/7/18 3:30 pm, Hildebrandt, John wrote:
>
>         Cameron
>
>         Yes I would be interested in presenting at the FOSS4G
>         conference in Melbourne. I could run my Geoserver on AWS
>         workshop plus we did 2 presentations and another workshop at
>         FOSS4G-NA that might be of interest.
>
>         We have a free tier for user with details here:
>         https://aws.amazon.com/free/
>
>         Students and Staff can get free access via the AWS Educate
>         program: https://aws.amazon.com/education/awseducate/
>
>         Researchers can apply for credits here:
>         https://aws.amazon.com/research-credits/
>
>         Startups can leverage the AWS Activate program:
>         https://aws.amazon.com/activate/
>
>         You can use VM Import to import your VM image see
>         https://aws.amazon.com/ec2/vm-import/.
>
>         There are other options you might like to look at as well for
>         hosting Geospatial applications.
>
>         Happy to chat further during the week.
>
>         Regards
>
>         Thoughts on our interaction? Provide Feedback here
>         <https://feedback.aws.amazon.com/?ea=johnhild&fn=John&ln=Hildebrandt>.
>
>         John Hildebrandt Principal Solutions Architect, Public Sector,
>         Amazon Web Services http://aws.amazon.com <http://aws.amazon.com/>
>
>         *From:*Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter at gmail.com>
>         <mailto:cameron.shorter at gmail.com>
>         *Sent:* Friday, June 29, 2018 8:53 PM
>         *To:* Hildebrandt, John <johnhild at amazon.com>
>         <mailto:johnhild at amazon.com>
>         *Cc:* Shaun Kolomeitz <kolomes at gmail.com>
>         <mailto:kolomes at gmail.com>
>         *Subject:* Re: Proposed OSGeo stack beginner workshop, based
>         on OSGeo-Live, presented at FOSS4G
>
>         There are multiple possibilities, and I'm interested to gauge
>         your level of interest and ability to commit.
>
>         1. I understand you have created a OSGeo workshop. Do you
>         still have access to the material? Are you interested in
>         sharing it? Ideally under some open license. I assume the
>         material will need to be updated to the latest versions of
>         software. Would you be interested in helping do this? Would
>         you be ok with someone else updating your material? Would you
>         be interested in presenting at the FOSS4G conference in Melbourne?
>
>         2. For OSGeo workshops, there is potential to tailor them to
>         work within the cloud. Is there some arrangement that could be
>         set up to have free student accounts to support this?
>
>         3. OSGeoLive is a Lubuntu linux distribution with 50 odd open
>         source GIS applications + data + project overviews and
>         quickstarts. It is regularly used within FOSS4G workshops,
>         booted from a USB, Virtual Machine (and sometimes from a DVD).
>         It would be great if we could extend it to work within the
>         cloud. I'm not sure how achievable this would be, or how much
>         work would be involved. It would be great to tap into your
>         experience in helping answer some of these questions.
>
>         Hopefully there is a good business case for AWS to support
>         these initiatives. Effectively it would be training GIS people
>         how to use AWS.
>
>         Thoughts?
>
>         On 29/6/18 8:36 pm, Hildebrandt, John wrote:
>
>             Cameron
>
>             Sounds like a great idea keen to understand more and how
>             you think we might be able to help.
>
>             Regards
>
>             Thoughts on our interaction? Provide Feedback here
>             <https://feedback.aws.amazon.com/?ea=johnhild&fn=John&ln=Hildebrandt>.
>
>             John Hildebrandt Principal Solutions Architect, Public
>             Sector, Amazon Web Services http://aws.amazon.com
>             <http://aws.amazon.com/>
>
>             *From:*Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter at gmail.com>
>             <mailto:cameron.shorter at gmail.com>
>             *Sent:* Friday, June 29, 2018 4:46 PM
>             *To:* Hildebrandt, John <johnhild at amazon.com>
>             <mailto:johnhild at amazon.com>
>             *Cc:* Shaun Kolomeitz <kolomes at gmail.com>
>             <mailto:kolomes at gmail.com>
>             *Subject:* Re: Proposed OSGeo stack beginner workshop,
>             based on OSGeo-Live, presented at FOSS4G
>
>             On 29/6/18 4:43 pm, Cameron Shorter wrote:
>
>                 Hi John,
>
>                 Thanks for getting back. Below are some of the emails
>                 that we have been trading around the idea of creating
>                 an OSGeo stack beginner workshop, making use of
>                 OSGeoLive, and potentially taking it all to the cloud.
>
>                 It would be great to loop you in on these
>                 conversations. As Shaun has noticed, you have shown
>                 how to get OSGeo in the cloud in a workshop. We'd be
>                 keen to work out how we can build upon that.
>
>                 All the best,
>
>                 Cameron
>
>                 On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 8:10 PM Cameron Shorter
>                 <cameron.shorter at gmail.com
>                 <mailto:cameron.shorter at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>                 Hi folks,
>
>                 Shaun Kolomeitz and myself were recently discussing
>                 the value that could
>                 be gained by setting up a "beginners OSGeo full stack"
>                 workshop, which
>                 served multiple needs and communities.
>
>                 It would aim to help new users answer "when, what and
>                 how should I use
>                 Open Source GIS".
>
>                 Initially we would target a workshop at FOSS4G-Oceania
>                 [1] (in Melbourne
>                 Australia in November 2018)
>
>                 The aim would be to build upon OSGeo-Live [2], with
>                 the intent that the
>                 training material would eventually become distributed
>                 with OSGeo-Live.
>                 This brings the advantage that the training course
>                 would be continually
>                 be getting updated with every software distribution,
>                 and setup glitches
>                 would be significantly reduced because everything
>                 would be pre-installed
>                 with OSGeo-Live.
>
>                 Ideally, we would be this course to be run on the
>                 cloud. Again, the
>                 advantage here is that we would be taking OSGeo-Live
>                 (along with OSGeo
>                 applications) into a cloud environment.
>
>                 In future versions, we would aim to team up with
>                 geo4all, universities
>                 and educators, such that we can integrate OSGeo-Live
>                 and courses, and
>                 help cross collaboration and maintenance between
>                 projects, programmers
>                 and educators.
>
>                 The first thing we want to do is work out if anyone is
>                 doing something
>                 similar, or have material we can make use of, or have
>                 good ideas that we
>                 should incorporate, or who would like to join us.
>
>                 Introducing Shaun:
>
>                 For those who don't know Shaun, he is someone I've
>                 known for years. He
>                 has decades of experience with GIS, is an advocate
>                 Open Source GIS, and
>                 is someone who has a track record of getting things done.
>
>                 [1] http://foss4g-oceania.org/
>
>                 [2] http://live.osgeo.org <http://live.osgeo.org/>
>
>                 On 29/6/18 9:33 am, S Kolo wrote:
>
>                     Cameron,
>
>                     No, I haven't yet. Just accessing the free AWS
>                     servers requires credit card details (which I’m
>                     nervous at giving them).
>
>                     I haven’t heard from anyone about the workshop
>                     idea except for the request to make it project
>                     focused.
>
>                     That would be great  if you want to reach out.
>
>                     Cheers,
>
>                     Shaun
>
>                     On Fri, 29 Jun 2018 at 9:29 am, Cameron Shorter
>                     <cameron.shorter at gmail.com
>                     <mailto:cameron.shorter at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>                         Hey Shaun,
>
>                         Have you had any luck connecting with AWS? I
>                         just noticed that two of the presenters live
>                         here in Australia. Herman Coomans even lives
>                         in Melbourne. I reckon we might be able to
>                         convince them to come along to the upcoming
>                         FOSS4G workshop.
>
>                         If you haven't reached out to them, I'll do so
>                         now.
>
>                         https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-hildebrandt-a134332
>
>                         https://www.linkedin.com/in/hermancoomans/
>
>                         On 25/6/18 9:34 am, S Kolo wrote:
>
>                             Thanks Cameron,
>
>                             The report looks good.
>
>                             Ive got some time this week so have
>                             started doing my research.
>
>                             It would be great if I could get my hands
>                             on the docs (or even a video) for this -
>                             https://2018.foss4g-na.org/session/introduction-running-auto-scaling-geoserver-and-postgresqlpostgis-cloud-aws
>
>                             Ive joined the Brisbane Amazon Web
>                             Services interest group here to see if I
>                             can discuss techy stuff with them in terms
>                             of SDI. Maybe I can get away with a free
>                             site to do the testing initially.
>
>                             I'll join the foss4g-oceania and osgeolive
>                             list groups.
>
>                             Cheers,
>
>                             Shaun
>
>                             On Sun, Jun 24, 2018 at 8:27 AM Cameron
>                             Shorter <cameron.shorter at gmail.com
>                             <mailto:cameron.shorter at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>                                 Hi Shaun,
>
>                                 It was great to talk with you
>                                 yesterday. Your enthusiasm is contagious.
>
>                                 I love the idea of creating full stack
>                                 Open Source training material.
>
>                                 I put a proposal together for the UN
>                                 to fund comprehensive training
>                                 material here:
>                                 https://docs.google.com/document/d/19Di-WxImfPq5oF2jeBblxNjY0JYJoXegLc5jaTPjufM/edit#heading=h.g1mf7fn4rfea
>
>                                 This proposal never got up, but I
>                                 think it has a lot of principles we
>                                 can draw upon.
>
>                                 I think that the formula we aim toward is:
>
>                                 1. Create a "Lightning OSGeo Stack
>                                 Workshop"
>
>                                 2. Start with the OSGeo-Live
>                                 distribution, with the intent that we
>                                 will get our material into the
>                                 OSGeo-Live distribution. I can
>                                 facilitate that. http://live.osgeo.org
>
>                                 3. Take one example through
>                                 Postgres/PostGIS, GeoServer/GeoNode,
>                                 QGIS, OpenLayers/Leaflet.
>
>                                 4. Target presenting at a FOSS4G
>                                 workshop, which is a 3 hour slot. (We
>                                 might ask to get 2 x 3 hour slots - we
>                                 can decide that later).
>
>                                 5. Aim to make the workshop
>                                 sustainable, but inviting the
>                                 community use review it, use it,
>                                 update it. I can help facilitate that.
>
>                                 The email lists I sit on, and which I
>                                 think we can target are:
>
>                                 *
>                                 https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/osgeolive
>                                 : Where we can get into the OSGeo-Live
>                                 distribution
>
>                                 *
>                                 https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>                                 : Potential source of collaborators
>                                 from specific projects
>
>                                 *
>                                 https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/foss4g-oceania
>                                 : To get us a slot at
>                                 FOSS4G-Melbourne, and find Australian
>                                 workshop collaborators.
>
>                                 *
>                                 https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/geoforall
>                                 : Universities. More talk than action,
>                                 but potential source of collaborators
>
>                                 *
>                                 https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/un
>                                 : UN sponsored some training material
>                                 we might want to use and get
>                                 collaboration. Action here seems to be
>                                 hidden within different companies.
>
>                                 If you only join one list, I'd say the
>                                 foss4g-oceania is probably the one to
>                                 join (initially), followed by osgeolive.
>
>

-- 
Cameron Shorter
Technology Demystifier
Open Technologies and Geospatial Consultant

M +61 (0) 419 142 254

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