[FOSS4G-Oceania] Proposed OSGeo stack beginner workshop, based on OSGeo-Live, presented at FOSS4G
Cameron Shorter
cameron.shorter at gmail.com
Mon Oct 29 04:01:44 PDT 2018
Hi John Hildenbandt,
Great to hear you will be at the community day, and I'm excited by the
possibility of being able to set up OSGeoLive in the cloud.
I'm keen to make sure we can make the day count and suggest it would be
good for us to work out what we want to achieve, identify what is
realistic, identify what we need to have ready in advance, work out what
volunteering opportunities there are (maybe some of the people from your
workshop might want to join us).
Do you have any suggested pre-reading links you'd suggest pointing us at?
Cheers, Cameron
On 29/10/18 10:18 am, Hildebrandt, John wrote:
>
> Cameron
>
> I have registered for your session on the community day so we can
> discuss moving to the cloud then.
>
> I am running my workshop on the workshop day in morning which gives a
> walkthrough on running Geoserver in the cloud.
>
> Regards
>
> Thoughts on our interaction? Provide Feedback here
> <https://feedback.aws.amazon.com/?ea=johnhild&fn=John&ln=Hildebrandt>.
>
> John Hildebrandt Principal Solutions Architect, Public Sector, Amazon
> Web Services http://aws.amazon.com <http://aws.amazon.com/>
>
> E johnhild at amazon.com <mailto:johnhild at amazon.com> | M +61 428 968 555
>
> *From:*Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 4 July 2018 9:38 PM
> *To:* Hildebrandt, John <johnhild at amazon.com>; Shaun Kolomeitz
> <kolomes at gmail.com>; foss4g-oceania at lists.osgeo.org
> *Subject:* Re: Proposed OSGeo stack beginner workshop, based on
> OSGeo-Live, presented at FOSS4G
>
> John, I'm looping in the foss4g conference committee via our public
> email list. I wouldn't be surprised if a few will jump in with
> suggestions.
>
> I'm hoping to be able to catch you tomorrow.
>
> Cheers, Cameron
>
> On 3/7/18 7:53 pm, Hildebrandt, John wrote:
>
> Yes the Geoserver workshop talks to leveraging a collection of
> services together to deliver a HA deployment so would be a good match
>
> Yes happy for you to discuss with the committee memebrs.
>
> Regards
>
> Thoughts on our interaction? Provide Feedback here
> <https://feedback.aws.amazon.com/?ea=johnhild&fn=John&ln=Hildebrandt>.
>
> John Hildebrandt Principal Solutions Architect, Public Sector,
> Amazon Web Services http://aws.amazon.com <http://aws.amazon.com/>
>
> E johnhild at amazon.com <mailto:johnhild at amazon.com> | M +61 428 968 555
>
> *From:*S Kolo <kolomes at gmail.com> <mailto:kolomes at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, July 2, 2018 2:47 PM
> *To:* Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter at gmail.com>
> <mailto:cameron.shorter at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* Hildebrandt, John <johnhild at amazon.com>
> <mailto:johnhild at amazon.com>
> *Subject:* Re: Proposed OSGeo stack beginner workshop, based on
> OSGeo-Live, presented at FOSS4G
>
> Thanks Cameron,
>
> John - Ive implemented full SDI stacks in my work place (using
> virtualised infrastructure) and was hoping to take this knowledge
> into using AWS / Cloud services space.
>
> From a client perspective seeing how the components work in
> themselves is nice, seeing how they work in combo is better but
> importantly being able to adequately answer the questions " so
> when do I need component <x>" and "when would I use components
> <x><y> and <z>" of even more value. We are seeing more and more of
> our data migrate into the cloud so having an awareness of how to
> effectively leverage this would be great,
>
> Thoughts ?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Shaun
>
> On Sun, Jul 1, 2018 at 10:54 PM Cameron Shorter
> <cameron.shorter at gmail.com <mailto:cameron.shorter at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi John, would be great to have a chat, although I'm traveling
> till Tuesday and will likely be hard to catch before Wednesday.
>
> Workshops are presentation selection will be largely selected
> by the community. I think what you are suggesting will be well
> received.
>
> I'm interested to hear Shaun's thoughts and assuming you are
> ok with it, I'd like to discuss with other committee members.
>
> All the best,
>
> Cameron
>
> On 1/7/18 3:30 pm, Hildebrandt, John wrote:
>
> Cameron
>
> Yes I would be interested in presenting at the FOSS4G
> conference in Melbourne. I could run my Geoserver on AWS
> workshop plus we did 2 presentations and another workshop
> at FOSS4G-NA that might be of interest.
>
> We have a free tier for user with details here:
> https://aws.amazon.com/free/
>
> Students and Staff can get free access via the AWS Educate
> program: https://aws.amazon.com/education/awseducate/
>
> Researchers can apply for credits here:
> https://aws.amazon.com/research-credits/
>
> Startups can leverage the AWS Activate program:
> https://aws.amazon.com/activate/
>
> You can use VM Import to import your VM image see
> https://aws.amazon.com/ec2/vm-import/.
>
> There are other options you might like to look at as well
> for hosting Geospatial applications.
>
> Happy to chat further during the week.
>
> Regards
>
> Thoughts on our interaction? Provide Feedback here
> <https://feedback.aws.amazon.com/?ea=johnhild&fn=John&ln=Hildebrandt>.
>
> John Hildebrandt Principal Solutions Architect, Public
> Sector, Amazon Web Services http://aws.amazon.com
> <http://aws.amazon.com/>
>
> *From:*Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter at gmail.com>
> <mailto:cameron.shorter at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, June 29, 2018 8:53 PM
> *To:* Hildebrandt, John <johnhild at amazon.com>
> <mailto:johnhild at amazon.com>
> *Cc:* Shaun Kolomeitz <kolomes at gmail.com>
> <mailto:kolomes at gmail.com>
> *Subject:* Re: Proposed OSGeo stack beginner workshop,
> based on OSGeo-Live, presented at FOSS4G
>
> There are multiple possibilities, and I'm interested to
> gauge your level of interest and ability to commit.
>
> 1. I understand you have created a OSGeo workshop. Do you
> still have access to the material? Are you interested in
> sharing it? Ideally under some open license. I assume the
> material will need to be updated to the latest versions of
> software. Would you be interested in helping do this?
> Would you be ok with someone else updating your material?
> Would you be interested in presenting at the FOSS4G
> conference in Melbourne?
>
> 2. For OSGeo workshops, there is potential to tailor them
> to work within the cloud. Is there some arrangement that
> could be set up to have free student accounts to support this?
>
> 3. OSGeoLive is a Lubuntu linux distribution with 50 odd
> open source GIS applications + data + project overviews
> and quickstarts. It is regularly used within FOSS4G
> workshops, booted from a USB, Virtual Machine (and
> sometimes from a DVD). It would be great if we could
> extend it to work within the cloud. I'm not sure how
> achievable this would be, or how much work would be
> involved. It would be great to tap into your experience in
> helping answer some of these questions.
>
> Hopefully there is a good business case for AWS to support
> these initiatives. Effectively it would be training GIS
> people how to use AWS.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> On 29/6/18 8:36 pm, Hildebrandt, John wrote:
>
> Cameron
>
> Sounds like a great idea keen to understand more and
> how you think we might be able to help.
>
> Regards
>
> Thoughts on our interaction? Provide Feedback here
> <https://feedback.aws.amazon.com/?ea=johnhild&fn=John&ln=Hildebrandt>.
>
> John Hildebrandt Principal Solutions Architect, Public
> Sector, Amazon Web Services http://aws.amazon.com
> <http://aws.amazon.com/>
>
> *From:*Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter at gmail.com>
> <mailto:cameron.shorter at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, June 29, 2018 4:46 PM
> *To:* Hildebrandt, John <johnhild at amazon.com>
> <mailto:johnhild at amazon.com>
> *Cc:* Shaun Kolomeitz <kolomes at gmail.com>
> <mailto:kolomes at gmail.com>
> *Subject:* Re: Proposed OSGeo stack beginner workshop,
> based on OSGeo-Live, presented at FOSS4G
>
> On 29/6/18 4:43 pm, Cameron Shorter wrote:
>
> Hi John,
>
> Thanks for getting back. Below are some of the
> emails that we have been trading around the idea
> of creating an OSGeo stack beginner workshop,
> making use of OSGeoLive, and potentially taking it
> all to the cloud.
>
> It would be great to loop you in on these
> conversations. As Shaun has noticed, you have
> shown how to get OSGeo in the cloud in a workshop.
> We'd be keen to work out how we can build upon that.
>
> All the best,
>
> Cameron
>
> On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 8:10 PM Cameron Shorter
> <cameron.shorter at gmail.com
> <mailto:cameron.shorter at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi folks,
>
> Shaun Kolomeitz and myself were recently
> discussing the value that could
> be gained by setting up a "beginners OSGeo full
> stack" workshop, which
> served multiple needs and communities.
>
> It would aim to help new users answer "when, what
> and how should I use
> Open Source GIS".
>
> Initially we would target a workshop at
> FOSS4G-Oceania [1] (in Melbourne
> Australia in November 2018)
>
> The aim would be to build upon OSGeo-Live [2],
> with the intent that the
> training material would eventually become
> distributed with OSGeo-Live.
> This brings the advantage that the training course
> would be continually
> be getting updated with every software
> distribution, and setup glitches
> would be significantly reduced because everything
> would be pre-installed
> with OSGeo-Live.
>
> Ideally, we would be this course to be run on the
> cloud. Again, the
> advantage here is that we would be taking
> OSGeo-Live (along with OSGeo
> applications) into a cloud environment.
>
> In future versions, we would aim to team up with
> geo4all, universities
> and educators, such that we can integrate
> OSGeo-Live and courses, and
> help cross collaboration and maintenance between
> projects, programmers
> and educators.
>
> The first thing we want to do is work out if
> anyone is doing something
> similar, or have material we can make use of, or
> have good ideas that we
> should incorporate, or who would like to join us.
>
> Introducing Shaun:
>
> For those who don't know Shaun, he is someone I've
> known for years. He
> has decades of experience with GIS, is an advocate
> Open Source GIS, and
> is someone who has a track record of getting
> things done.
>
> [1] http://foss4g-oceania.org/
>
> [2] http://live.osgeo.org <http://live.osgeo.org/>
>
> On 29/6/18 9:33 am, S Kolo wrote:
>
> Cameron,
>
> No, I haven't yet. Just accessing the free AWS
> servers requires credit card details (which
> I’m nervous at giving them).
>
> I haven’t heard from anyone about the workshop
> idea except for the request to make it project
> focused.
>
> That would be great if you want to reach out.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Shaun
>
> On Fri, 29 Jun 2018 at 9:29 am, Cameron
> Shorter <cameron.shorter at gmail.com
> <mailto:cameron.shorter at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hey Shaun,
>
> Have you had any luck connecting with AWS?
> I just noticed that two of the presenters
> live here in Australia. Herman Coomans
> even lives in Melbourne. I reckon we might
> be able to convince them to come along to
> the upcoming FOSS4G workshop.
>
> If you haven't reached out to them, I'll
> do so now.
>
> https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-hildebrandt-a134332
>
> https://www.linkedin.com/in/hermancoomans/
>
> On 25/6/18 9:34 am, S Kolo wrote:
>
> Thanks Cameron,
>
> The report looks good.
>
> Ive got some time this week so have
> started doing my research.
>
> It would be great if I could get my
> hands on the docs (or even a video)
> for this -
> https://2018.foss4g-na.org/session/introduction-running-auto-scaling-geoserver-and-postgresqlpostgis-cloud-aws
>
> Ive joined the Brisbane Amazon Web
> Services interest group here to see if
> I can discuss techy stuff with them in
> terms of SDI. Maybe I can get away
> with a free site to do the testing
> initially.
>
> I'll join the foss4g-oceania and
> osgeolive list groups.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Shaun
>
> On Sun, Jun 24, 2018 at 8:27 AM
> Cameron Shorter
> <cameron.shorter at gmail.com
> <mailto:cameron.shorter at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi Shaun,
>
> It was great to talk with you
> yesterday. Your enthusiasm is
> contagious.
>
> I love the idea of creating full
> stack Open Source training material.
>
> I put a proposal together for the
> UN to fund comprehensive training
> material here:
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/19Di-WxImfPq5oF2jeBblxNjY0JYJoXegLc5jaTPjufM/edit#heading=h.g1mf7fn4rfea
>
> This proposal never got up, but I
> think it has a lot of principles
> we can draw upon.
>
> I think that the formula we aim
> toward is:
>
> 1. Create a "Lightning OSGeo Stack
> Workshop"
>
> 2. Start with the OSGeo-Live
> distribution, with the intent that
> we will get our material into the
> OSGeo-Live distribution. I can
> facilitate that. http://live.osgeo.org
>
> 3. Take one example through
> Postgres/PostGIS,
> GeoServer/GeoNode, QGIS,
> OpenLayers/Leaflet.
>
> 4. Target presenting at a FOSS4G
> workshop, which is a 3 hour slot.
> (We might ask to get 2 x 3 hour
> slots - we can decide that later).
>
> 5. Aim to make the workshop
> sustainable, but inviting the
> community use review it, use it,
> update it. I can help facilitate that.
>
> The email lists I sit on, and
> which I think we can target are:
>
> *
> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/osgeolive
> : Where we can get into the
> OSGeo-Live distribution
>
> *
> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
> : Potential source of
> collaborators from specific projects
>
> *
> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/foss4g-oceania
> : To get us a slot at
> FOSS4G-Melbourne, and find
> Australian workshop collaborators.
>
> *
> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/geoforall
> : Universities. More talk than
> action, but potential source of
> collaborators
>
> *
> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/un
> : UN sponsored some training
> material we might want to use and
> get collaboration. Action here
> seems to be hidden within
> different companies.
>
> If you only join one list, I'd say
> the foss4g-oceania is probably the
> one to join (initially), followed
> by osgeolive.
>
>
>
> --
> Cameron Shorter
> Technology Demystifier
> Open Technologies and Geospatial Consultant
> M +61 (0) 419 142 254
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Cameron Shorter
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Open Technologies and Geospatial Consultant
M +61 (0) 419 142 254
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