[FOSS4G-Oceania] Forum on Diversity

[Daniel Silk]

+1 Martin

It also seems we're heading down the path of failing the Bechdel test for
tech conferences: https://twitter.com/mrogati/status/665962306694615040


On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 11:42 AM Martin Tomko <tomkom at unimelb.edu.au> wrote:

> Dear all,
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> (apologies, a white mail weighing in).
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> I would not dare stating why there are less women represented in our
> submissions and community, just state that it is no good and their publicly
> facing involvement is lesser than their contribution to the discipline.
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> I wonder if we can learn something from the organisers of the PyConAU
> conference, judging purely by the twitter thread, it had a great diversity,
> and the community is certainly even more geeky than us.
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> Similar for the RConf. Should we reach out, at least for best practice
> hints? I know that in R, there are some very vocal female present,which
> probably helps – Di Cook from Melbourne is one of those.
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> Better late than never…
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> M.
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> *From: *FOSS4G-Oceania <foss4g-oceania-bounces at lists.osgeo.org> on behalf
> of adam steer <adam.d.steer at gmail.com>
> *Date: *Thursday, 6 September 2018 at 9:06 am
> *To: *Alex Leith <alexgleith at gmail.com>
> *Cc: *foss4g-oceania <foss4g-oceania at lists.osgeo.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [FOSS4G-Oceania] Forum on Diversity
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> HI Alex
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> I’ve already invited all the people I know :D - and yes, a panel should
> reflect the community we *want*.
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> Let’s move CFP discussion to the other thread about an extended CFP - but
> continue working toward a decision!
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> Thanks
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> On Thu, 6 Sep 2018 at 08:59, Alex Leith <alexgleith at gmail.com> wrote:
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> I think if we run a panel we ensure that diverse voices are on it, even
> stacking against the “male, male and stale” pigeon hole.
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> I don’t think we need to start specifically organising aspects yet, but
> agreeing on the big picture is something we can do now.
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> Regarding what you’re saying Adam, I’m not against opening up CFP for
> diverse folks... but who’s to say that we’ll get any more than we already
> have? Maybe we need to specifically invite people we know? I should push
> Deanna from SIBA a bit harder to attend, as her GeoRabble talk on 'Vitamin
> D for the Spatial Industry' was excellent.
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> Regards,
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> On Thu, 6 Sep 2018 at 8:51 am, adam steer <adam.d.steer at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Hi all,
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> Cameron - low attendee at conference sessions happen all the time. Even
> when the community votes for things.
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> Everyone - please read this thread, but not because it is a shining
> example in OSgeo’s history of managing diversity:
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> There was an email thread "Diversity in FOSS4G" discussing some of these
> points: https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2018-August/thread.html
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> (direct: https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2018-August/037710.html
> )
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> The first few e-mails were great - then it went to both men explaining to
> women what women want to do; and non-scientists explaining to scientists
> how science works - all in one delicious e-mail thread. I responded to it -
> in a very, very, very muted fashion. I was actually really fuming -  I
> sometimes think about diving in again but just get too angry every time I
> think about it - so the conversation is effectively shut down and I’m
> hesitant to communicate with certain people involved because of their
> communication style (I’m sure you all get that from me also from time to
> time).
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> Reference to this research:
> http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0956797617741719
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> https://researchtheheadlines.org/2018/04/20/the-stem-gender-equality-paradox-from-fallacies-to-facts/
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> I’d be happy to do a journal club on this paper -  maybe it’d be a good
> georabble? I’d love to see Sarah, or Martin, or Trisha weigh in  (or any
> other academics in the community ). Actually, would someone who isn’t a
> white bloke like to propose a co-presentation at georabble on it?
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> I certainly would not hold it up as an authoritative reference on why
> women leave STEM careers.
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> Cheers
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> Adam
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