[Ica-osgeo-labs] Certification

Tue Oct 20 04:23:52 PDT 2015

Dear Elżbieta,

I try to answer your question:

1. The goal is to create a portfolio of certifications related to the 
usage and implementation of Geo-spatial Open Source solutions (as we 
discussed in Como). So far we take the following certifications into 
approach (with 2 - 3 sub-categories):

 1. Positioning and data acquisition
 2. Analysis and Modeling
 3. Software, Application and Development

Hence it is geared to "some broader knowledge & skills related to 
implementation of GI tools and spatial dat". As you can see it's not 
product-oriented but Tanzeel developed suggestions for the usage of 
tools from the OSGeo Projects [1]

2. I think that QGIS certification is product specific and hence 
complimentary

Regards - Franz-Josef

[1] http://www.osgeo.org/

Am 20.10.2015 um 12:14 schrieb Elżbieta Wołoszyńska-Wiśniewska:
> Dear Franz-Josef, Tanzeel,
>
> Your conversation with Suchith it's quite similar to the one we did in 
> Nodebo during the 1st QGIS Conference (then it was obviously related 
> to QGIS only).
>
> I have two general questions...
> No. 1 What does it mean "FOSS4G/OsGeo certification"? What kind of 
> competences should be covered by this certification - use of specific 
> soft only (which one) or some broader knowledge & skills related to 
> implementation of GI tools and spatial data?
> No. 2 How is your idea related to QGIS certification (mentioned in the 
> email)?
>
> Regards,
> Ela
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> W dniu 2015-10-20 o 11:45, Franz-Josef Behr pisze:
>> Dear Suchith,
>>
>> thank you for your message and concerns. I'd like to bring in some 
>> clarification.
>>
>>  1. Basically certification for FOSS should be based on the community
>>     for the community.
>>  2. Accreditation must be given by an acknowledged organisation like
>>     OSGeo, as you mentioned, and perhaps other communities (i.e. QGIS
>>     association [1]). This should be the "umbrella".
>>  3. Examinations should be endorsed by acknowledged Universities
>>     (i.e. Geo4All members). Here I am looking for supporters.
>>  4. Education is provided by certified trainers (still further work
>>     needed)
>>  5. Organisational work and management has to be done by an agency.
>>     This could be an opportunity for Tanzeel.
>>
>>
>> In my opinion FOSS4G/OSGeo certifications can be beneficial for all 
>> participants:
>>
>>   * for the community
>>   * for the further dissemination of open tools, data, and standards
>>   * for the trainees
>>   * for the trainers
>>   * for the companies looking for employees
>>   * for the organising agency
>>   * for Universities (offering education).
>>
>> Similar to [1] certification should have either a fixed, moderate 
>> cost, or a cost relative to the  GDP/mean salary of the country of 
>> origin of the trainee
>>
>> Suchith and colleagues, I'd really appreciate your support and your 
>> ideas.
>>
>> Regards
>> Franz-Josef
>> [1] http://hub.qgis.org/wiki/quantum-gis/Certification
>>
>> Am 19.10.2015 um 15:42 schrieb Suchith Anand:
>>> Dear Tanzeel,
>>>
>>> Thank you for the email and more information. The idea of open 
>>> source certification model based on geospatial technology competency 
>>> model is good BUT i do have concerns  on your  aim to commercialise 
>>> this certification under the umberella of  a private company.  OSGeo 
>>> Board should be the one who should be able to take the decision on 
>>> certification for OSGeo software training.
>>>
>>> I was not aware of your discussions with Jeff and others on this 
>>> that you mention in your mail . I am ccing this to our education 
>>> colleagues, so they can give an informed answer and suggestions to 
>>> this. I suggest that you email the OSGeo Board with all details, so 
>>> that they will be able to give you suggestions on the best way for this.
>>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>>
>>> Suchith
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> *From:* tanzeel rehman [tanzeelrehman130 at hotmail.com]
>>> *Sent:* Monday, October 19, 2015 2:20 PM
>>> *To:* suchith.anand at nottingham.ac.uk
>>> *Subject:* RE: [Ica-osgeo-labs] STDF Grant for Leaders in Innovation 
>>> Fellowships (LIF) UK-Egypt Newton-Mosharafa Program
>>>
>>> Dear Suchith
>>>
>>> Thanks for concerns .yes it is my master thesis and I develop an 
>>> open source certification model based on geospatial technology 
>>> competency model. I preseneted this topic in FOSS4g Como pre 
>>> conference and it was highly appriciated even some of guys were 
>>> really intrested. We had a meeting also for accereditation and 
>>> approval for this model and jeff suggested that it should be project 
>>> based certifocation. Now a days me in spokane for gis pro confernece 
>>> because i want to commercialise this certification under the 
>>> umberella of my new born company spatial junction
>>> And my second supervisor phillip davis  appriciated alot.
>>> I need support and suggesstions from all of you to uplift the OSgeo 
>>> model
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> From: Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk
>>> To: tanzeelrehman130 at hotmail.com
>>> CC: ica-osgeo-labs at lists.osgeo.org
>>> Subject: RE: [Ica-osgeo-labs] STDF Grant for Leaders in Innovation 
>>> Fellowships (LIF) UK-Egypt Newton-Mosharafa Program
>>> Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 08:45:14 +0000
>>>
>>> Hi Tanzeel,
>>>
>>> Apologies i could not understand the background discussion on the 
>>> topic on certification. From Frans-Josef email some time back i 
>>> understand this is something related to your Masters Thesis. Is this 
>>> correct? Did you discuss this with the OSGeo Board?  If it is 
>>> related to OSGeo certification then you should get approval from the 
>>> OSGeo Board first.
>>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>>
>>> Suchith
>>>
>>
>>
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