[Ica-osgeo-labs] Certification

Tue Oct 20 04:39:00 PDT 2015

Hi Franz-Josef,

So it seems that your idea is similar to the one developed by AICA which 
established ECDL GIS exams 
(http://www.ecdl.org/programmes/index.jsp?p=771&n=772), isn't it? 
However, ECDL GIS is not a worldwide initiative. It exists in only few 
countries in Europe (for example in Poland). So that's the biggest 
difference :-)

Regard,
Ela

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W dniu 2015-10-20 o 13:23, Franz-Josef Behr pisze:
> Dear Elżbieta,
>
> I try to answer your question:
>
> 1. The goal is to create a portfolio of certifications related to the 
> usage and implementation of Geo-spatial Open Source solutions (as we 
> discussed in Como). So far we take the following certifications into 
> approach (with 2 - 3 sub-categories):
>
>  1. Positioning and data acquisition
>  2. Analysis and Modeling
>  3. Software, Application and Development
>
>
> Hence it is geared to "some broader knowledge & skills related to 
> implementation of GI tools and spatial dat". As you can see it's not 
> product-oriented but Tanzeel developed suggestions for the usage of 
> tools from the OSGeo Projects [1]
>
> 2. I think that QGIS certification is product specific and hence 
> complimentary
>
> Regards - Franz-Josef
>
> [1] http://www.osgeo.org/
>
> Am 20.10.2015 um 12:14 schrieb Elżbieta Wołoszyńska-Wiśniewska:
>> Dear Franz-Josef, Tanzeel,
>>
>> Your conversation with Suchith it's quite similar to the one we did 
>> in Nodebo during the 1st QGIS Conference (then it was obviously 
>> related to QGIS only).
>>
>> I have two general questions...
>> No. 1 What does it mean "FOSS4G/OsGeo certification"? What kind of 
>> competences should be covered by this certification - use of specific 
>> soft only (which one) or some broader knowledge & skills related to 
>> implementation of GI tools and spatial data?
>> No. 2 How is your idea related to QGIS certification (mentioned in 
>> the email)?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Ela
>>
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>> W dniu 2015-10-20 o 11:45, Franz-Josef Behr pisze:
>>> Dear Suchith,
>>>
>>> thank you for your message and concerns. I'd like to bring in some 
>>> clarification.
>>>
>>>  1. Basically certification for FOSS should be based on the
>>>     community for the community.
>>>  2. Accreditation must be given by an acknowledged organisation like
>>>     OSGeo, as you mentioned, and perhaps other communities (i.e.
>>>     QGIS association [1]). This should be the "umbrella".
>>>  3. Examinations should be endorsed by acknowledged Universities
>>>     (i.e. Geo4All members). Here I am looking for supporters.
>>>  4. Education is provided by certified trainers (still further work
>>>     needed)
>>>  5. Organisational work and management has to be done by an agency.
>>>     This could be an opportunity for Tanzeel.
>>>
>>>
>>> In my opinion FOSS4G/OSGeo certifications can be beneficial for all 
>>> participants:
>>>
>>>   * for the community
>>>   * for the further dissemination of open tools, data, and standards
>>>   * for the trainees
>>>   * for the trainers
>>>   * for the companies looking for employees
>>>   * for the organising agency
>>>   * for Universities (offering education).
>>>
>>> Similar to [1] certification should have either a fixed, moderate 
>>> cost, or a cost relative to the  GDP/mean salary of the country of 
>>> origin of the trainee
>>>
>>> Suchith and colleagues, I'd really appreciate your support and your 
>>> ideas.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Franz-Josef
>>> [1] http://hub.qgis.org/wiki/quantum-gis/Certification
>>>
>>> Am 19.10.2015 um 15:42 schrieb Suchith Anand:
>>>> Dear Tanzeel,
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for the email and more information. The idea of open 
>>>> source certification model based on geospatial technology 
>>>> competency model is good BUT i do have concerns  on your  aim to 
>>>> commercialise this certification under the umberella of  a private 
>>>> company.  OSGeo Board should be the one who should be able to take 
>>>> the decision on certification for OSGeo software training.
>>>>
>>>> I was not aware of your discussions with Jeff and others on this 
>>>> that you mention in your mail . I am ccing this to our education 
>>>> colleagues, so they can give an informed answer and suggestions to 
>>>> this. I suggest that you email the OSGeo Board with all details, so 
>>>> that they will be able to give you suggestions on the best way for 
>>>> this.
>>>>
>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>
>>>> Suchith
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> *From:* tanzeel rehman [tanzeelrehman130 at hotmail.com]
>>>> *Sent:* Monday, October 19, 2015 2:20 PM
>>>> *To:* suchith.anand at nottingham.ac.uk
>>>> *Subject:* RE: [Ica-osgeo-labs] STDF Grant for Leaders in 
>>>> Innovation Fellowships (LIF) UK-Egypt Newton-Mosharafa Program
>>>>
>>>> Dear Suchith
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for concerns .yes it is my master thesis and I develop an 
>>>> open source certification model based on geospatial technology 
>>>> competency model. I preseneted this topic in FOSS4g Como pre 
>>>> conference and it was highly appriciated even some of guys were 
>>>> really intrested. We had a meeting also for accereditation and 
>>>> approval for this model and jeff suggested that it should be 
>>>> project based certifocation. Now a days me in spokane for gis pro 
>>>> confernece because i want to commercialise this certification under 
>>>> the umberella of my new born company spatial junction
>>>> And my second supervisor phillip davis  appriciated alot.
>>>> I need support and suggesstions from all of you to uplift the OSgeo 
>>>> model
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> From: Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk
>>>> To: tanzeelrehman130 at hotmail.com
>>>> CC: ica-osgeo-labs at lists.osgeo.org
>>>> Subject: RE: [Ica-osgeo-labs] STDF Grant for Leaders in Innovation 
>>>> Fellowships (LIF) UK-Egypt Newton-Mosharafa Program
>>>> Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 08:45:14 +0000
>>>>
>>>> Hi Tanzeel,
>>>>
>>>> Apologies i could not understand the background discussion on the 
>>>> topic on certification. From Frans-Josef email some time back i 
>>>> understand this is something related to your Masters Thesis. Is 
>>>> this correct? Did you discuss this with the OSGeo Board?  If it is 
>>>> related to OSGeo certification then you should get approval from 
>>>> the OSGeo Board first.
>>>>
>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>
>>>> Suchith
>>>>
>>>
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