[Incubator] Re: [SAC] Request for comments: Infrastructure migration assessment

[Uli Rothstein]

Dear all,

Markus Neteler wrote:
> Dear all,
> 
> [repost from board list]
> thanks for the nice proposal! Here some suggestions/comments:
> 
> - Mapbender loss of archives: this is absolutely dangerous and
>   should be avoided at least for other projects (copyright infringement
>   issues, authorships etc are often commented therein)

I've to rectify that Mapbender don't loss of archives.
We've the complete cvs dump and the mailing lists as archive (mbox format).
All we need is a way to make them available at osgeo.

Best regards
Uli


> - telascience.org: you may add "geodata processing" to the list of
>   usages
> - Drupal:
>  - do we know anything about its scalability (many users)?
>  - how to mirror it to other web sites (GRASS has 25+ mirrors worldwide)
> - Hosting questions:  do we have cost scenarios for the hired staff
>   (maybe I should know)
> - automated smoke tests on telascience.org: do we have different
>   operating systems there?
> 
> Infrastructure: please add
> - telephone conference server (Asterix or YATE,..) to render communication
>   free and improve sound quality
> - a translation portal for software user messages (web based, e.g.
>   rosetta/launchpad (still non-free, let's free it), KDE kartouche, ...)
> - IRC CGI interface for all foundation projects to enable people behind
>   firewalls to enter IRC (limit access to OSGeo related channels)
> 
> Best,
> Markus
> 
> On 9/12/06, Jo Walsh <jo at frot.org> wrote:
>> dear Incubators,
>>
>> Attached is an document that I helped Tyler produce, assessing OSGeo
>> projects' infrastructure needs and what components will need to move
>> in order to effect migration off the CollabNet platform into an
>> environment which OSGeo can self-manage.
>>
>> What is at question here:
>> * What components projects need - are there pieces missing?
>> * Are projects interested in buying into a "complete picture" or
>>   simply want some OSGeo-managed components (LDAP, DNS, or CMS but not
>>   code repository management?)
>>
>> The biggest constraint is the MapGuide project infrastructure; when
>> the CN contract ends on Jan 1st, MapGuide needs to have something in
>> place that will provide at least the same services (SVN, mailing
>> lists, web presence) with an SLA.
>>
>> What needs to be figured out by the end of the month:
>> * Setup costs (this is probably too important to leave to volunteer
>>   energy)
>> * Maintenance costs (at least for critical services there needs to be
>>   a support SLA)
>> * Timescale - what the critical path is.
>>
>> I know that a lot of people are insanely busy with F0SS4G this week.
>> It's important to get clarity on what projects' concerns and
>> requirements are ASAP, though. Even work on putting this plan together
>> and working up a prototype web UI has been stalling because neither
>> Tyler or I have had the time to commit; it's getting to the point
>> where this can't stall for much longer.
>>
>> I pasted the commentary Markus offered on the board list into
>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/Talk:Project_Infrastructure_Migration
>> and would suggest this is a good place to offer more feedback.
>>
>> The alternative to pursuing this plan is
>> * projects continue to run and maintain their own infrastructure
>> * the foundation still needs to support CMS, mail, wiki for
>>   collaboration and education/publishing needs and this needs an SLA
>> * MapGuide takes out its own contract to rebuild its infrastructure
>>
>> And i wonder how PSCs and committee chairs would feel about that.
>>
>> There's been so much talk about this; reserve over whether it's the
>> foundation's place to start reimplementing CollabNet. I don't really
>> see the instantiation of trac+svn, mailing lists and a simple drupal
>> or plone portal as being that big a deal, and that's already more than
>> the CN platform provides.
>>
>> cheers,
>>
>>
>> jo
>>
> 
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