[Incubator] Rasdaman Incubation Status [was: FW: [rasdaman-users] Updates toward OSGeo graduation] [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

Peter Baumann p.baumann at jacobs-university.de
Sun Feb 10 22:28:59 PST 2013

Hi Bruce and all,

thanks for all your attentive and diligent following of the project, and all the 
helpful hints! A few early-morning thoughts here. In the attempt to find out 
where we stand I observe that moving the trac to OSGeo is not required by OSGeo, 
and there are important projects who have not done that. PostGIS comes to my 
mind. As rasdaman is cross-community, people from the Life sciences and other 
communities (like astro) might be puzzled, and what if a future 
"OS-Life-Science.org" would request the same? ;-) I do find it useful, though, 
to establish a summary page of rasdaman on OSGeo.

I am not aware that rasdaman is being perceived as a pure research project - 
rasdaman GmbH is one of the key committers, and states its support prominently 
at its own pages (www.rasdaman.com -> "our service", bottom left). Further, the 
"rasdaman cloud" is substantial in advancing industry-oriented standards like 
OGC, INSPIRE, and ISO SQL. Is there any evidence support for such concerns?

Oh, and then rasdaman is on OSGeo Live since quite some time now, and tighly 
involved in its work.

Recent work on implementing OSGeo and your diligent mentoring has helped the 
project substantially to advance, are we maybe approaching an 80/20 feasibility 
line? As always, we are ready to learn.

Just some thoughts...

On 02/11/2013 12:19 AM, Bruce Bannerman wrote:
> Re: [Incubator] Rasdaman Incubation Status [was: FW: [rasdaman-users] Updates 
> toward OSGeo graduation] [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] Jody,
> I think that the remaining issues are more related to community process 
> development.
> We still haven't made the transition to a truly open community:
>   * Most activity and decision making still appears to be centered around
>     Jakobs Uni / Rasdaman.com. I haven't seen much discussion on the lists
>     around a PSC, apart from my and Alan Beccati's comments.
>   * I do know from discussions with Peter Baumann that there are a number of
>     users and potentially developers within Europe, particularly Germany who
>     are hesitant to discuss issues openly in English, but do converse amongst
>     themselves. So we have a cultural / language issue here as well, with
>     potentially hidden processes that the rest of the community does not see.
>   * Though there is still quite a lot of developer contribution coming from
>     other areas as well.
>   * Rasdaman have recently opened up access to their wiki hosted at Jakobs Uni
>     after a request for access by myself to the mailing list.
>   * I haven't raised it yet with the community, though I do wonder how much of
>     a deterrent having the wiki, trac etc hosted at Jakobs is to more open
>     development of the Rasdaman Community. It does leave the perception of
>     being a research oriented project.
>   * Perhaps this infrastructure would be better hosted within the OSGeo
>     umbrella, however this would probably be a big disruption to the community
>     at this stage of their development. Thoughts?
> So in answer to your question, I think that we will need some time for 
> processes and the community to come together into a more cohesive and open 
> environment.
> Bruce
> On 11/02/13 9:54 AM, "Jody Garnett" <jody.garnett at gmail.com> wrote:
>      Thanks for the status update Bruce - moving to a continuous build is a
>     huge load off the developers.
>     Is there anything we can do to help Rasdaman along? Or is it just case of
>     finding the time ...
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Dr. Peter Baumann
  - Professor of Computer Science, Jacobs University Bremen
    mail: p.baumann at jacobs-university.de
    tel: +49-421-200-3178, fax: +49-421-200-493178
  - Executive Director, rasdaman GmbH Bremen (HRB 26793)
    www.rasdaman.com, mail: baumann at rasdaman.com
    tel: 0800-rasdaman, fax: 0800-rasdafax, mobile: +49-173-5837882
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