[Incubator] Recommend Graduation of Rasdaman from OSGeo Incubation

Thu Oct 30 10:40:36 PDT 2014

Jody,

This seems reasonable.  Note that I am supportive of graduation when the
motions is reraised.

Best regards,
 On Oct 30, 2014 8:34 AM, "Jody Garnett" <jody.garnett at gmail.com> wrote:

> Tell you what bruce, lets table this motion and continue with discussion
> (addressing the points raised).
>
> If you are on the road either Cameron or myself can re-introduce a
> "motion" when these questions are answered.
> --
> Jody
>
>
>
> Jody Garnett
>
> On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 11:51 PM, Bruce Bannerman <
> bruce.bannerman.osgeo at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Jody,
>>
>> We still have some outstanding requests for additional information from
>> the Rasdaman community:
>>
>> - Cameron's request for a summary of how Rasdaman meets each incubation
>> checklist point. I was going to add additional observations to that
>> provided by the community where required.
>>
>> - following on from Frank's request and my follow up emails, we're
>> waiting for a comment from the Rasdaman PSC on how they see that the
>> Rasdaman community could add functionality that is currently within the
>> commercial version to the community version, should the community deem this
>> action to be desirable. From Rasdaman Community user feedback, an excellent
>> example to guide this response could be the inclusion of support for 'null'
>> values.
>>
>> While I understand that key community members have had other commitments,
>> I suggest either:
>>
>> - putting a limit on the response time.
>>
>> - withdrawing the motion recommending graduation, pending an appropriate
>> response.
>>
>>
>> I will be travelling for the next few weeks and will now have little
>> bandwidth to follow up on additional information requested from me until
>> early December.
>>
>> Bruce
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 7:23 AM, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> We are running into the end of our 10 business days - if you have not
>>> already done so please take this opportunity to review Bruce's
>>> recommendation, and the documentation provided by the Rasdaman community.
>>>
>>> Jody Garnett
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 7:12 AM, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks for the nomination Bruce.
>>>>
>>>> As this list sees such low traffic/participation we have struggled to
>>>> reach quorum. I would like to keep this motion open for two weeks (10
>>>> business days) to allow members to review and vote.
>>>> --
>>>> Jody
>>>>
>>>> Jody Garnett
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 10:25 PM, Bruce Bannerman <
>>>> bruce.bannerman.osgeo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Project:                    Rasdaman
>>>>>
>>>>> Project Contact:       Peter Baumann
>>>>>
>>>>> Project Mentor:        Bruce Bannerman
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Recommendation:   Rasdaman to Graduate from OSGeo Incubation
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Incubation Checklist:
>>>>> http://rasdaman.org/wiki/OSGeoIncubationChecklist
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Comments:
>>>>>
>>>>> I have been monitoring and participating in the Rasdaman Community
>>>>> developer and user email lists for over four years. I plan to continue to
>>>>> participate within the community.
>>>>>
>>>>> It has been pleasing to see how the community has evolved over this
>>>>> time to develop effective, open and robust processes.
>>>>>
>>>>> I recommend to other FOSS4G communities to review what has been done,
>>>>> as you may well find that Rasdaman offers a compelling solution for the
>>>>> management of multi-dimensional array or gridded data that your project may
>>>>> be able to capitalise on.
>>>>>
>>>>> A summary of community activity may be found at:
>>>>> https://www.openhub.net/p/rasdaman
>>>>>
>>>>> Key project members are active within both OSGeo and the OGC.
>>>>>
>>>>> Within the OGC they have successfully guided a range of standards to
>>>>> support mutltidimensional array (gridded) data which have culminated
>>>>> (currently) in Web Coverage Service version 2.0 and a suite of extensions,
>>>>> see: http://www.opengeospatial.org/standards/wcs
>>>>>
>>>>> The project's principal, Professor Peter Baumann was also recently
>>>>> awarded OGC's prestigious Kenneth D Gardels award for his contributions to
>>>>> OGC.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> After having participated within the community for four years and
>>>>> having reviewed their OSGeo Project Graduation Checklist, I believe that
>>>>> Rasdaman Community have fulfilled the requirements of OSGeo Incubation and
>>>>> are eligible to graduate as an OSGeo Project.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The only reservation that I have is over the dual licensing model that
>>>>> is used by the sponsoring company, Rasdaman GmbH. See:
>>>>> http://www.rasdaman.com/Product/commercial+free.php
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> There are two versions: Community (GPL and LGPL) and Enterprise (free
>>>>> from GPL constraints).
>>>>>
>>>>> The main difference between the two versions is summarised at:
>>>>> http://www.rasdaman.org/wiki/Features
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This dual licensing may create a problem for the Rasdaman Community in
>>>>> the future should Rasdaman GmbH decide to sell its stake in the Rasdaman
>>>>> Enterprise version of the software. We have already seen a similar
>>>>> situation arise after the sale of MySQL which was similarly licensed.
>>>>>
>>>>> However as the community edition of the software is released under
>>>>> open source licenses, I expect that the main impact would be to the
>>>>> continuity of the Rasdaman Community in its current form. In the event of a
>>>>> sale, we may see the software forked, as happened with MySQL.
>>>>>
>>>>> For consideration and vote.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bruce
>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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