[Incubator] osgeo innovator (was labs)
Massimiliano Cannata
massimiliano.cannata at supsi.ch
Fri Feb 5 09:55:00 PST 2016
I think small community projects should simply be incubated if the
community is there, if the quality is there and if the licences are
respected.
Maybe a different label could be given to highlight the level of associated
"risk" in adoption.
Like:
geoserver: incubated & risk level 0
istsos: incubate & risk level 7
defining risk level based on evaluations of project metrics.
In my opinion, the "garage" world and idea will not invite people to adopt
them because somehow communicate a negative feeling: "this project is not
good to graduate in OSGeo..."
it doesn't tell "this project is very good but the community is still
small..."
Innovator has a positive message, but i see it is not the best option
though...
my 2 cents ;-)
Maxi
2016-02-05 18:22 GMT+01:00 Landon Blake <sunburned.surveyor at gmail.com>:
> Bob is making me laugh.:]
>
> Stephen wrote: "pgrouting is a good example of a project that has been
> around for 10+ years and has made an effort in the past to get ready for
> incubation but we gave up when we realized we would not meet the community
> requirements or having enough developers supporting it. But in every other
> way we are OSGeo, we have mentored something like 7-8 years of GSoC
> projects and about 12 students under OSGeo, the code is OpenSource, we
> collaborate with PostGIS team, etc.
>
> So I think providing support and shelter for projects like these is
> important to OSGeo."
>
> Agreed. Good comments.
>
> Jody wrote: "I think the point was this could be a place for projects
> that are open source ... but too small for main street. Projects will stay
> here, and may never meet our risk based graduation requirements.
>
> We do want these projects to be open source, correctly license and
> spatial. But that is about it for constraints."
>
> Agreed. Good comments.
>
> I really like "OSGeo Garage" as a name. It is a bit snarky, but also fun,
> and could make for a cool logo. I'm ready to lead this effort and reach out
> to our current "lab" projects so we can get things moving. Does someone
> else want to volunteer for the lead role?
>
> What do we need to do to get closure on a name? A quick vote using Google
> Forms?
>
> Landon
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 7:48 AM, Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul) <
> bob.basques at ci.stpaul.mn.us> wrote:
>
>> Oh no, now I’m going . . .
>>
>> OSGeo Alley (as in Diagon . . .)
>> OSGeo Side Street.
>> OSGeo Trail
>> OSGeo Path (Paths, Pathways . . .)
>> OSGeo Yard (Back yard)
>> OSGeo Basement (Cellar, Dungeon)
>> OSGeo Patio (Deck)
>> OSGeo Landing (Dock)
>>
>> hey this is kinda fun . . .
>>
>>
>>
>> bobb
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 4, 2016, at 9:06 PM, Stephen Woodbridge <woodbri at swoodbridge.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> For names, how about:
>>
>> OSGeo Shed
>> OSGeo Project Shed
>> OSGeo Project Barn
>> OSGeo Garage
>>
>> the place where projects live until they are ready for the main street.
>>
>> Names are hard!
>>
>> -Steve
>>
>> On 2/4/2016 8:22 PM, Landon Blake wrote:
>>
>> Agreed. We should just get the shed painted.
>>
>> Landon
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 2:21 PM, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett at gmail.com
>> <mailto:jody.garnett at gmail.com <jody.garnett at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>
>> I will point out that naming is a classic bike shed problem. I think
>> we should ask the projects in "labs" and get their take on this.
>>
>> --
>> Jody Garnett
>>
>> On 4 February 2016 at 13:12, Landon Blake
>> <sunburned.surveyor at gmail.com <mailto:sunburned.surveyor at gmail.com
>> <sunburned.surveyor at gmail.com>>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I like "Innovator". What about "Community Builder Project"?
>>
>> Landon
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 12:22 PM, Jody Garnett
>> <jody.garnett at gmail.com <mailto:jody.garnett at gmail.com
>> <jody.garnett at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>
>> I hear you, and you are correct that innovation can happen
>> anywhere. I look forward to alternate name suggestions.
>> "Experiment" would do a disservice to a completed project
>> that does not yet have a large/diverse enough community to
>> meet our graduation requirements.
>>
>> My fellow board members were a bit startled that our
>> incubation policies do inhibit the support smaller projects,
>> and would like an avenue to support innovation. It may be
>> that both these objectives cannot be met with the same
>> initiative, but I would like to try.
>>
>> --
>> Jody Garnett
>>
>> On 3 February 2016 at 23:47, Jeroen Ticheler
>> <jeroen.ticheler at geocat.net
>> <mailto:jeroen.ticheler at geocat.net
>> <jeroen.ticheler at geocat.net>>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Jody,
>> I understand the naming confusion. The Innovator name
>> however has IMO a negative reflection on the established
>> projects. Are new projects necessarily more innovative
>> than established ones? Often they are still so small
>> they don't have established communities/structures etc
>> in place. That's indeed why the Labs were created.
>> I will think about another potential name and I hope
>> others feel the same and will also think of an
>> alternative naming for the Labs. I remember you saying
>> something like Hatching (synonym of incubating, so maybe
>> to co fusing).
>> Maybe OSGeo Experiments.
>> Cheers,
>> Jeroen
>>
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>> > Op 4 feb. 2016 om 03:25 heeft Jody Garnett
>> <jody.garnett at gmail.com <mailto:jody.garnett at gmail.com
>> <jody.garnett at gmail.com>>>
>> het volgende geschreven:
>> >
>> > A couple of results for the incubation team out of
>> the weekend's board meeting.
>> >
>> > We have the "GeoForAll Labs" and our OSGeo labs
>> projects - and the two names trip on each other.
>> >
>> > Board members were also a bit taken aback that our
>> incubation process is not really "welcome" to innovation
>> (indeed our graduation requirements tend to favour
>> established projects).
>> >
>> > With that in mind - I would like to kick off:
>> >
>> > 1) Renaming OSGeo Labs as OSGeo Innovator
>> >
>> > The branding for this is way better for projects!
>> Having an "OSGeo Innovator" badge on your home page is
>> way more "positive" an impression.
>> >
>> > 2) Revise the procedures around this activity
>> >
>> > My first take is:
>> > - provide a home for small project teams / single
>> organization projects
>> > - focus on new projects (so provide README,
>> CONTRIBUTING, PSC files for a project to copy into github)
>> > - stick to our "open source" and "open development"
>> guns!
>> > - "save the sticker" until on-boarding is complete
>> > --
>> > Jody Garnett
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*Massimiliano Cannata*
Professore SUPSI in ingegneria Geomatica
Responsabile settore Geomatica
Istituto scienze della Terra
Dipartimento ambiente costruzione e design
Scuola universitaria professionale della Svizzera italiana
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