[Incubator] discussion on osgeo projects, osgeo community and incubation

[Jody Garnett]

Incubation committee participants.

As long as our current discussion remains open I do not feel comfortable
acting (even at the direction of the board). Can I ask osgeo incubation
committee particpants to respond to this email thread.

Specifically I would like a response from each of our members:

   - Bruce Bannerman
   - Bob (CI-StPaul) Basques
   - Landon Blake
   - Howard Butler
   - Arnulf Christl
   - Jody Garnett
   - Dimitris Kotzinos
   - Tom Kralidis
   - Julien-Samuel Lacroix
   - Mark Lucas
   - Steve Lime
   - Daniel Morissette
   - Markus Schneider
   - Cameron Shorter
   - Norman Vine
   - Frank Warmerdam

So far discussion here, and on individual project, lists are about 50/50 -
which is suprising to me.

If it helps I can make a motion to facilitate this discussion.

--
Jody Garnett

On 2 August 2017 at 17:11, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett at gmail.com> wrote:

> The last group to contact is of course us, the volunteers on the
> incubation committee. Do any committee members or mentors have a
> perspective on this they would like to share?
>
> --
> Jody Garnett
>
> On 2 August 2017 at 14:06, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I have contacted the developer list of each incubating project to ask. It
>> is also a good chance to share the new branding in time for foss4g.
>>
>> The only odd one was the Team ENGINE project, which has not mentioned
>> incubation in any of their emails since joining in 2013.
>>
>> --
>> Jody Garnett
>>
>> On 1 August 2017 at 08:47, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> A discussion has started up on the marketing and board email lists -
>>> that may require a meeting of the incubation committee.
>>>
>>> Can I ask how many projects want an special incubation logo? I
>>> understand being proud of the commitment made to enter incubation :)
>>>
>>> Here is the email I sent to the board:
>>>
>>> *I am staring a new thread so the marketing committee can focus on the
>>> printing deadline for boston.*
>>>
>>> *Projects are starting to update to the new branding which is great - we
>>> have two branding available:*
>>>
>>> *- https://github.com/OSGeo/osgeo/tree/master/incubation/project
>>> <https://github.com/OSGeo/osgeo/tree/master/incubation/project>*
>>> *- https://github.com/OSGeo/osgeo/tree/master/incubation/community
>>> <https://github.com/OSGeo/osgeo/tree/master/incubation/community>*
>>>
>>> *Projects that are part of our incubation process fall under community
>>> projects, they have met our standards for being open source, spatial and
>>> participatory and are being promoted as part of our foundation along side
>>> their fellow community projects pgrouting and geowebcache.*
>>>
>>> *For reference the prior branding is
>>> here https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Community_Projects#Comparison_with_Incubation
>>> <https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Community_Projects#Comparison_with_Incubation>*
>>>
>>> *The larger story is the focus not on our foundation, but on the
>>> software projects and outreach.*
>>>
>>> ** As such the incubation process is no longer called out on our website
>>> (or in our branding) because it does not have any significance to website
>>> visitors. Incubation is an internal process of our software foundation - it
>>> does not earn its keep introducing a "third branding" if we cannot explain
>>> succinctly what it actually means for potential users of the software.*
>>>
>>> ** The board introduced the idea of community projects in response to a
>>> call to be more inclusive and allow innovation*
>>>
>>> ** Including more projects in our community does not detract from the
>>> projects that were already in our community. We are doing more for software
>>> projects at OSGeo to help everyone.*
>>>
>>> *We have been avoiding a difficult conversation on osgeo project quality
>>> on and off since January. At our most recent F2F meeting we took some
>>> action items to hear a report from Maxi and Jeff McKenna (in Boston?
>>> details still be arranged). The question of what we have to offer community
>>> projects and osgeo projects, and what we expect in return, should be
>>> considered in one go to be fair to everyone.*
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jody Garnett
>>>
>>>
>>
>
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