[Incubator] motion: accept osgeo-live incubation application

Sat Nov 4 11:47:39 PDT 2017

Cameron,

As you can read, I mentioned that:
"I must say that, at least, the committee member with the conflict of
interest, mentioned his involvement when voting"

And also, I don't mention names, because the names are not the relevant
topic, the situation is the topic.

Regards
Vicky

On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 1:19 PM, Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Vicky,
>
> Jody sums up my thoughts well.
>
> I believe I'm one of the people who has a conflicting interest.
>
> (I voted +1 - noting my position on the OSGeo-Live PSC)
>
> On 4/11/17 6:06 am, Jody Garnett wrote:
>
> Thanks Vicky, motion is not quite passed yet (waiting on 100% response for
> the electronic voting).
>
> I note that the board-priv at osgeo.org list is available if you have any
> questions you would like to raise privately.
>
> You can see a couple of approaches in play here:
> - Earlier on the incubation thread I asked the incubation committee to
> consider my early involvement with OSGeo live and if it would be a
> hindrance to acting as mentor.
> - During MOT1 voting I responded with +1, noting my role as incubation
> chair
> - During MOT1 voting you can see Angelos abstain with a +0 vote, noting
> his role as PSC chair
>
> The board has addressed these kind of tensions previously, asking
> directors to acknowledge if they are affected by the matter at hand - but
> still vote in a responsible fashion as a director of OSGeo. This issue
> comes up a lot for directors, because they are part of OSGeo and are
> affected by most decisions.
>
> With your permission I would like to pass your question and the above
> answer to the board email list. I try not to cross post since that leads to
> madness.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Jody Garnett
>
> On 3 November 2017 at 10:19, Vicky Vergara <vicky at georepublic.de> wrote:
>
>> Hello all
>>
>> As member of the PSC of OSGeo-Live, I am glad to read that the motion of
>> considering OSGeo-Live for incubation has passed.
>>
>> I am concerned because the the incubator committee has a member that has
>> a conflict of interest because is also a member of the PSC of OSGeo-Live
>> project, and he voted +1.
>> I expressed my concern in the "Juez y Parte" thread of [1], where is
>> "clear" that there is no guideline of the action to be taken on a committee
>> member when there is a conflict of interest. (the thread has a link to the
>> incubator committee guidelines [2])
>> I must say that, at least, the committee member with the conflict of
>> interest, mentioned his involvement when voting, but he didn't step down
>> from the committee, or voted in such a way that his vote would not
>> influence the over all result like a (+0)
>>
>> So, The next step is for the board for approval.
>> And my concern grows thinking on how the board with two board members
>> also on the PSC of OSGeo-Live, so more conflict of interest.
>>
>> I was doubtful of which was the correct mailing list to make this post.
>> (Here or Discuss) but having Jody as part of Board, I leave the decision to
>> him if this new concern of mine "Juez y Parte" but for board making
>> decision on projects they belong to.
>>
>> I want things made done right. Our project application, as far as I can
>> see, can  be used to make more precise written rules/policies about
>> conflicts of interest.
>> But what I would not want is someone else in the future, to notice and
>> make a big fuss/attack of "how bad X person acted when having a conflict of
>> interest".
>>
>> I wonder if there is a guideline equivalent to the incubator committee
>> guideline but for board.
>>
>> Regards
>> Vicky
>>
>>
>>
>> [1] https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/incubator/2017-October/003394.html
>> [2] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Committee_Guidelines
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 12:58 AM, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The motion has now passed:
>>>
>>>    Accept the OSGeo-Live incubation application
>>> <https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/2002>, with Jody Garnett acting as
>>> mentor.
>>>
>>> With the following support:
>>>
>>>    - Bruce Bannerman +1
>>>    - Bob (CI-StPaul) Basques +1
>>>    - Landon Blake
>>>    - Howard Butler
>>>    - Arnulf Christl
>>>    - Jody Garnett +1 initial motion
>>>    - Dimitris Kotzinos +0 (question between project / initiative )
>>>    - Tom Kralidis +1
>>>    - Julien-Samuel Lacroix +1
>>>    - Mark Lucas
>>>    - Steve Lime +1
>>>    - Daniel Morissette +1
>>>    - Markus Schneider
>>>    - Cameron Shorter +1
>>>    - Norman Vine
>>>    - Frank Warmerdam
>>>
>>> Community support:
>>>
>>>    - pending
>>>
>>> Welcome to the incubation program OSGeo-Live, I will take an action item
>>> to the next board meeting for approval.
>>>
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>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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