[Incubator] motion: accept osgeo-live incubation application

Sun Nov 5 20:47:37 PST 2017

Fair enough, in my research I did find our policy -
https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Conflict_Of_Interest_Policy

I am more concerned with a conflict of interest (in the money / financial
sense) then a conflict of responsibility (where I am inclined to trust the
volunteer to act responsibility).

--
Jody Garnett

On 4 November 2017 at 11:47, Vicky Vergara <vicky at georepublic.de> wrote:

> Cameron,
>
> As you can read, I mentioned that:
> "I must say that, at least, the committee member with the conflict of
> interest, mentioned his involvement when voting"
>
> And also, I don't mention names, because the names are not the relevant
> topic, the situation is the topic.
>
> Regards
> Vicky
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 1:19 PM, Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter at gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> Vicky,
>>
>> Jody sums up my thoughts well.
>>
>> I believe I'm one of the people who has a conflicting interest.
>>
>> (I voted +1 - noting my position on the OSGeo-Live PSC)
>>
>> On 4/11/17 6:06 am, Jody Garnett wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Vicky, motion is not quite passed yet (waiting on 100% response
>> for the electronic voting).
>>
>> I note that the board-priv at osgeo.org list is available if you have any
>> questions you would like to raise privately.
>>
>> You can see a couple of approaches in play here:
>> - Earlier on the incubation thread I asked the incubation committee to
>> consider my early involvement with OSGeo live and if it would be a
>> hindrance to acting as mentor.
>> - During MOT1 voting I responded with +1, noting my role as incubation
>> chair
>> - During MOT1 voting you can see Angelos abstain with a +0 vote, noting
>> his role as PSC chair
>>
>> The board has addressed these kind of tensions previously, asking
>> directors to acknowledge if they are affected by the matter at hand - but
>> still vote in a responsible fashion as a director of OSGeo. This issue
>> comes up a lot for directors, because they are part of OSGeo and are
>> affected by most decisions.
>>
>> With your permission I would like to pass your question and the above
>> answer to the board email list. I try not to cross post since that leads to
>> madness.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jody Garnett
>>
>> On 3 November 2017 at 10:19, Vicky Vergara <vicky at georepublic.de> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello all
>>>
>>> As member of the PSC of OSGeo-Live, I am glad to read that the motion of
>>> considering OSGeo-Live for incubation has passed.
>>>
>>> I am concerned because the the incubator committee has a member that has
>>> a conflict of interest because is also a member of the PSC of OSGeo-Live
>>> project, and he voted +1.
>>> I expressed my concern in the "Juez y Parte" thread of [1], where is
>>> "clear" that there is no guideline of the action to be taken on a committee
>>> member when there is a conflict of interest. (the thread has a link to the
>>> incubator committee guidelines [2])
>>> I must say that, at least, the committee member with the conflict of
>>> interest, mentioned his involvement when voting, but he didn't step down
>>> from the committee, or voted in such a way that his vote would not
>>> influence the over all result like a (+0)
>>>
>>> So, The next step is for the board for approval.
>>> And my concern grows thinking on how the board with two board members
>>> also on the PSC of OSGeo-Live, so more conflict of interest.
>>>
>>> I was doubtful of which was the correct mailing list to make this post.
>>> (Here or Discuss) but having Jody as part of Board, I leave the decision to
>>> him if this new concern of mine "Juez y Parte" but for board making
>>> decision on projects they belong to.
>>>
>>> I want things made done right. Our project application, as far as I can
>>> see, can  be used to make more precise written rules/policies about
>>> conflicts of interest.
>>> But what I would not want is someone else in the future, to notice and
>>> make a big fuss/attack of "how bad X person acted when having a conflict of
>>> interest".
>>>
>>> I wonder if there is a guideline equivalent to the incubator committee
>>> guideline but for board.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Vicky
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [1] https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/incubator/2017-October/003394.html
>>> 
>>> [2] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Committee_Guidelines
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 12:58 AM, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The motion has now passed:
>>>>
>>>>    Accept the OSGeo-Live incubation application
>>>> <https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/2002>, with Jody Garnett acting
>>>> as mentor.
>>>>
>>>> With the following support:
>>>>
>>>>    - Bruce Bannerman +1
>>>>    - Bob (CI-StPaul) Basques +1
>>>>    - Landon Blake
>>>>    - Howard Butler
>>>>    - Arnulf Christl
>>>>    - Jody Garnett +1 initial motion
>>>>    - Dimitris Kotzinos +0 (question between project / initiative )
>>>>    - Tom Kralidis +1
>>>>    - Julien-Samuel Lacroix +1
>>>>    - Mark Lucas
>>>>    - Steve Lime +1
>>>>    - Daniel Morissette +1
>>>>    - Markus Schneider
>>>>    - Cameron Shorter +1
>>>>    - Norman Vine
>>>>    - Frank Warmerdam
>>>>
>>>> Community support:
>>>>
>>>>    - pending
>>>>
>>>> Welcome to the incubation program OSGeo-Live, I will take an action
>>>> item to the next board meeting for approval.
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
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