[Incubator] motion: accept osgeo-live incubation application

Fri Nov 3 12:19:39 PDT 2017

Vicky,

Jody sums up my thoughts well.

I believe I'm one of the people who has a conflicting interest.

(I voted +1 - noting my position on the OSGeo-Live PSC)

On 4/11/17 6:06 am, Jody Garnett wrote:
> Thanks Vicky, motion is not quite passed yet (waiting on 100% response 
> for the electronic voting).
>
> I note that the board-priv at osgeo.org <mailto:board-priv at osgeo.org> 
> list is available if you have any questions you would like to raise 
> privately.
>
> You can see a couple of approaches in play here:
> - Earlier on the incubation thread I asked the incubation committee to 
> consider my early involvement with OSGeo live and if it would be a 
> hindrance to acting as mentor.
> - During MOT1 voting I responded with +1, noting my role as incubation 
> chair
> - During MOT1 voting you can see Angelos abstain with a +0 vote, 
> noting his role as PSC chair
>
> The board has addressed these kind of tensions previously, asking 
> directors to acknowledge if they are affected by the matter at hand - 
> but still vote in a responsible fashion as a director of OSGeo. This 
> issue comes up a lot for directors, because they are part of OSGeo and 
> are affected by most decisions.
>
> With your permission I would like to pass your question and the above 
> answer to the board email list. I try not to cross post since that 
> leads to madness.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Jody Garnett
>
> On 3 November 2017 at 10:19, Vicky Vergara <vicky at georepublic.de 
> <mailto:vicky at georepublic.de>> wrote:
>
>     Hello all
>
>     As member of the PSC of OSGeo-Live, I am glad to read that the
>     motion of considering OSGeo-Live for incubation has passed.
>
>     I am concerned because the the incubator committee has a member
>     that has a conflict of interest because is also a member of the
>     PSC of OSGeo-Live project, and he voted +1.
>     I expressed my concern in the "Juez y Parte" thread of [1], where
>     is "clear" that there is no guideline of the action to be taken on
>     a committee member when there is a conflict of interest. (the
>     thread has a link to the incubator committee guidelines [2])
>     I must say that, at least, the committee member with the conflict
>     of interest, mentioned his involvement when voting, but he didn't
>     step down from the committee, or voted in such a way that his vote
>     would not influence the over all result like a (+0)
>
>     So, The next step is for the board for approval.
>     And my concern grows thinking on how the board with two board
>     members also on the PSC of OSGeo-Live, so more conflict of interest.
>
>     I was doubtful of which was the correct mailing list to make this
>     post. (Here or Discuss) but having Jody as part of Board, I leave
>     the decision to him if this new concern of mine "Juez y Parte" but
>     for board making decision on projects they belong to.
>
>     I want things made done right. Our project application, as far as
>     I can see, can  be used to make more precise written
>     rules/policies about conflicts of interest.
>     But what I would not want is someone else in the future, to notice
>     and make a big fuss/attack of "how bad X person acted when having
>     a conflict of interest".
>
>     I wonder if there is a guideline equivalent to the incubator
>     committee guideline but for board.
>
>     Regards
>     Vicky
>
>
>
>     [1]
>     https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/incubator/2017-October/003394.html
>     <https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/incubator/2017-October/003394.html>
>     [2] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Committee_Guidelines
>     <https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Committee_Guidelines>
>
>
>
>     On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 12:58 AM, Jody Garnett
>     <jody.garnett at gmail.com <mailto:jody.garnett at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>         The motion has now passed:
>
>            Accept the OSGeo-Live incubation application
>         <https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/2002>, with Jody Garnett
>         acting as mentor.
>
>         With the following support:
>
>           * Bruce Bannerman +1
>           * Bob (CI-StPaul) Basques +1
>           * Landon Blake
>           * Howard Butler
>           * Arnulf Christl
>           * Jody Garnett +1 initial motion
>           * Dimitris Kotzinos +0 (question between project / initiative )
>           * Tom Kralidis +1
>           * Julien-Samuel Lacroix +1
>           * Mark Lucas
>           * Steve Lime +1
>           * Daniel Morissette +1
>           * Markus Schneider
>           * Cameron Shorter +1
>           * Norman Vine
>           * Frank Warmerdam
>
>         Community support:
>
>           * pending
>
>         Welcome to the incubation program OSGeo-Live, I will take an
>         action item to the next board meeting for approval.
>
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