[Incubator] list of incubating projects + their status

Jody Garnett jody.garnett at gmail.com
Thu Sep 14 14:40:37 PDT 2017

I would like to thank Jeff for maintaining the wiki (and for digging into
the website and updating sidebar as projects join and graduate).

To answer the original question:

* what needs to happen to finish incubation

Each project should have a graduation checklist (which has been in use
since 2013 to make the process more prescriptive and consistent, and less
about hosting requirements). Projects that have a "Incubation Status" page
have not updated this page.

There seem to be three large chunks of work/communication for projects
during incubation:
1. Initially filling out the checklist to see how much work will be
involved. Some projects use this as an opportunity to introduce additional
process (to help things be transparent and fair).
2. Going through the codebase and figuring out where it came from, captured
as a provenance review.
3. Sitting down and finishing after the provenance review is done

IstSOS Incubation Status
- last updated in 2014, all content is "tba". Jeff McKenna took over as
mentor in 2016
- IstSOS Provenance Review
<https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/IstSOS_Provenance_Review> is empty

MetaCRS Incubation Status
- stalled progress, see below

Opticks Incubation Checklist
- A fair number of todos, has not started provenance review yet
- last updated in 2013

Oskari Incubation Status
- just started, need to ask team

PyWPS Graduation Checklist
- most things are checked off, not sure what this one is waiting on
- The Provenance Review
<https://github.com/geopython/pywps/wiki/ProjectProvenanceReview> looks
good also

Team Engine
- no progress, see below

ZOO-Project Incubation Checklist
- another project that is very close

For further details we will need to ask projects and mentors for an update.

* who is the mentor

Mentor is listed on the wiki page, while we have had a few members
apologize for not being responsive we have not really had any trouble here.
In general mentors and this mailing list have been available to answer any
questions as projects go through graduation.

The only time mentors become a bottle neck are if there is a legal
difficulty to consider; or when a project is close to graduating and the
mentor gathers together a motion for the incubation committee to consider.

* if the project is still interested in incubation

That is a harder question, for projects like MetaCRS and CITE Team Engine
the answer appears to be "not as such".

We have had several discussion with MetaCRS about repositioning themselves
as an OSGeo initiative (facilitating interoperability between coordinate
reference system libraries) and take individual projects such as PROJ out
as distinct community projects. It may be that the website/rebranding
activity will resolve this discussion as we find a better way to present
the project.

For CITE Team Engine there has been no activity; it appears as if the
project entered into incubation as a tangible strategic activity between
OSGeo and OGC. I had a chance to talk with the project lead at foss4g, we
need to have another go at what OSGeo incubation can offer the CITE Team
Engine project.

The OGC already offers a "vendor neutral" home for the project, and they do
have some working procedures for collaboration. In effect the Team Engine
projects itself is doing open source just fine and wonders how we can help.
OSGeo would hopefully benefit from closer collaboration with the project;
but the larger questions of how OSGeo can help promote standards is beyond
the scope of the incubation committee.

* if the mentor is still interested in being a mentor

We have had mentors step down before via email and a replacement found, so
I am confident that the current mentors are interested (but waiting).

Jody Garnett

On 13 September 2017 at 15:32, Jeff McKenna <jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com>

> Hi Johan,
> For the past couple of years I've been maintaining a current status of
> mentors and projects at: https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/In
> cubation_Committee#Incubator (before that, there was no record only
> mailing list discussions, and I was tired of digging for that)
> I also maintain a history of graduated projects at
> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Incubation_Committee#Graduated
> Help with maintaining this is welcomed!
> -jeff
> --
> Jeff McKenna
> President Emeritus, OSGeo Foundation
> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Jeff_McKenna
> On 2017-09-13 6:47 PM, Johan Van de Wauw wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> Is there a list with all incubating projects + their status:
>> * what needs to happen to finish incubation
>> * who is the mentor
>> * if the project is still interested in incubation
>> * if the mentor is still interested in being a mentor
>> I'd really like to hear from the projects and their mentors, and I
>> think it would really be worthwhile to collect such a list and update
>> it every quarter. I have the impression that incubation is stale in
>> many projects and we should fix that. I offered help for that years
>> ago and without such a list helping out is impossible.
>> I'm also not sure incubation should rely on one mentor. If we want to
>> teach projects to build a community, and communicate open as a
>> community, having private conversations with one mentor is not showing
>> the way forward.
>> Kind Regards,
>> Johan
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