[Incubator] Mentor Guidelines (was: Re: [EXTERN] Re: Masterportal - OS Geo Incubator Application Questionnaire)

[Jody Garnett]

Arnulf:

I would love to have a video chat meeting for the incubation committee and
see what our priorities should be.

The lost documents are on the old osgeo site; new documents were created
but not for everything (
https://github.com/OSGeo/osgeo/tree/master/incubation/documents).

We have had new members join, they send an email asking to volunteer. We
prune the existing membership based on particpation as needed. I think some
recruiting would be in order; especially as open-source seems to be
evolving to face new challenges.

Jody

On Tue, Jul 25, 2023 at 12:17 PM Arnulf Christl <
arnulf.christl at metaspatial.net> wrote:

> Just seeing that my last edit of the Mentor Guidelines [1] is almost 10
> years old. Won't hurt to revisit... :-)
>
> Also, some stable documents are gone [2], [3] we should look into fixing
> this.
>
> When we started out with OSGeo we had the hen and egg problem of coders
> also wanting to promote their "own" project and we even had some competing
> projects (pun intended). We were therefore especially careful to craft the
> rules so as to avoid bias within the committee and also to be as
> transparent as possible. This is still perfectly valid.
>
> From my experience the mentor does not really have much of a say in
> accepting a project, they can only help the project do their homework and
> then recommend it for graduation. The vote happens publicly by committee
> members and then needs to be promoted to the board of directors who have
> the last say. In case we get there I would be happy to abstain from the
> vote - hoping that we still have enough active members to get a
> representative vote at all.
>
> Which brings me to another aspect of the incubation committee: How can new
> members join, so far we have mostly only lost old  members? Should we maybe
> actively reach out to generate some interest in the process? I do think
> that the whole incubation thingy may become more interesting again seeing
> some projects stray from real Open Source to "mixed" models and even
> plainly locked-up proprietary licenses and governance. This topic may morph
> into a new thread if there are others interested in following up.
>
> Cheers,
> Seven
>
>
> [1] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Incubation_Mentor_Guidelines
> [2] https://www.osgeo.org/incubator/process/statustemplate.html
> [3]
> http://old.www.osgeo.org/incubator/process/project_graduation_checklist.html
> referenced from https://www.osgeo.org/about/committees/incubation/mentor/
>
> Am 25.07.23 um 20:03 schrieb Jody Garnett:
>
> Greg:
>
> Really we just need someone with a few moments of time to check if your
> project meets the join the osgeo community program
> <https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Incubation_Committee#Step_2:_Join_Community_Projects_Program>
> .
> You are not seeking a mentor presently.
>
> OSGeo asked us to write down how we operate here:
> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Incubation_Committee#Committee_Operation
>
> Some folks have chosen to vote +0 or -0 if they feel they are too close to
> a project. There is no requirement to do this however - the important part
> is that we have clear communication.
> --
> Jody Garnett
>
>
> On Jul 25, 2023 at 9:51:40 AM, Greg Troxel <gdt at lexort.com> wrote:
>
>> I am not really clear on the details here, but I would think that the
>> osgeo person doing mentorship should not have *any* conflict of interest
>> about the project.  Or perhaps it is strictly 'mentor' and has nothing
>> to do with the approval process.
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