[Incubator] Motion: Project Terra Draw community project initative

Wed Oct 2 12:12:15 PDT 2024

+1

..Tom

On Wed, Oct 2, 2024 at 3:10 PM Michael Smith via Incubator <
incubator at lists.osgeo.org> wrote:

>
> +1
>
> Mike
>
> On 10/2/24, 3:02 PM, "Incubator on behalf of Angelos Tzotsos via
> Incubator" <incubator-bounces at lists.osgeo.org <mailto:
> incubator-bounces at lists.osgeo.org> on behalf of incubator at lists.osgeo.org
> <mailto:incubator at lists.osgeo.org>> wrote:
>
>
> +1
> Angelos
>
>
> On 10/2/24 17:49, Nick Bearman via Incubator wrote:
> > Hi James, Jody, it sounds like you came to a conclusion with your
> > discussions. If you have anything to add, or clarify, please do so!
> >
> > Given that we got diverted, I will re-open the motion to include Terra
> > Draw project in OSGeo community initiative:
> >
> > Angelos Tzotsos
> > Arnulf Christl
> > Bob (CI-StPaul) Basques
> > Brian M Hamlin
> > Daniel Morissette
> > Dimitris Kotzinos
> > Frank Warmerdam
> > Jo Cook
> > Jody Garnett (chair)
> > Michael Smith
> > Nick Bearman +1
> > Regina Obe (+1 from 28th Aug)
> > Steve Lime
> > Tom Kralidis
> >
> > Two weeks from now will take us to 16th October.
> >
> > Please do reply!
> >
> > Best wishes,
> > Nick.
> >
> > On 19/09/2024 17:09, Jody Garnett wrote:
> >> Most headers just indicate the license name and say available in the
> >> root of the software project or something. I do understand that JS
> >> projects are sensitive to character count - so it is fine to avoid
> >> headers - as long as you are doing so on purpose. I think there is
> >> often a compile step these days for JS projects that takes care of
> >> comments (and even long variable names).
> >>
> >> As for Leaflet - the OSGeo website is very much in the "empower
> >> everyone" mandate and lists all the projects it can.
> >> It is for all foss4g software - and is not limited to those that
> >> decided to join the foundation. This is about serving the public
> >> after all.
> >> - -
> >> Jody Garnett
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sep 19, 2024 at 4:01:52 AM, James Milner
> >> <jamesmilner22 at hotmail.com <mailto:jamesmilner22 at hotmail.com>> wrote:
> >>> Hi Jody,
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for writing out those points, interesting reading. I
> >>> appreciate that the file headers are probably a better practice from
> >>> a licensing perspective, although there is a slight trade off in
> >>> that they can add some 'bulk' to files so to speak which add some
> >>> friction. Let me think about that a bit more and what might work
> >>> well there. Are you aware of scenarios where people simply reference
> >>> the copyright name and date and the license name, rather than the
> >>> full license text? That might be a good compromise. On the Leaflet
> >>> point, it is worth noting that the project is listed on the OSGeo
> >>> website under projects which might be slightly confusing: Leaflet -
> >>> OSGeo <https://www.osgeo.org/projects/leaflet/> <
> https://www.osgeo.org/projects/leaflet/>>
> >>>
> >>> All the best,
> >>>
> >>> James
> >>>
> >>>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> *From:* Jody Garnett <jody.garnett at gmail.com <mailto:
> jody.garnett at gmail.com>>
> >>> *Sent:* 19 September 2024 08:02
> >>> *To:* James Milner <jamesmilner22 at hotmail.com <mailto:
> jamesmilner22 at hotmail.com>>
> >>> *Cc:* incubator at lists.osgeo.org <mailto:incubator at lists.osgeo.org> <
> incubator at lists.osgeo.org <mailto:incubator at lists.osgeo.org>>; Nick
> >>> Bearman <nick at nickbearman.com <mailto:nick at nickbearman.com>>
> >>> *Subject:* Re: [Incubator] Motion: Project Terra Draw community
> >>> project initative
> >>> Hi James,
> >>>
> >>> I am happy - the point is to have this conversation and check that
> >>> you are doing things on purpose.
> >>>
> >>> * We did confirm that a copyright is not needed on the top of each
> >>> file, it is just a good practice, but revision history can
> >>> establish authorship.
> >>> * We were advised by a lawyer a few years ago that it was a good
> >>> practice to have a license at the top of each file - since many
> >>> folks discover code by searching these days.
> >>> (So not a requirement just passing that on).
> >>> * OpenLayers did the much more extensive checking each file history
> >>> <https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OpenLayers_Provenance_Review> <
> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OpenLayers_Provenance_Review>>, they
> >>> also have a CLA so great tradability that everyone understood
> >>> they were adding to an open source project.
> >>> * Leaflet is a great project but not associated with OSGeo
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> - -
> >>> Jody Garnett
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Sep 19, 2024 at 12:43:47 AM, James Milner
> >>> <jamesmilner22 at hotmail.com <mailto:jamesmilner22 at hotmail.com> <mailto:
> jamesmilner22 at hotmail.com <mailto:jamesmilner22 at hotmail.com>>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hey Jody,
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for your reply. I guess I am still looking for a
> >>> definition of what you mean by 'applied correctly' in this
> >>> scenario. The repository has an MIT License file and there is no
> >>> source code in the project (to my knowledge) that is not MIT
> >>> compatibly licensed. To my understanding, unlike Apache 2 or GPL
> >>> the MIT Licence does not require it to be referenced at the top
> >>> of every source file.
> >>>
> >>> If it is a requirement of being a OSGeo Community Project I can
> >>> look at how we could apply a short notice to the top of the
> >>> source files. Just an observation on this more broadly though, I
> >>> checked the source for OpenLayers (BSD-2)
> >>> <
> https://github.com/openlayers/openlayers/blob/main/src/ol/extent/Relationship.js>
> <
> https://github.com/openlayers/openlayers/blob/main/src/ol/extent/Relationship.js>>
> and
> >>> Leaflet (BSD-2)
> >>> <https://github.com/Leaflet/Leaflet/blob/main/src/map/Map.js> <
> https://github.com/Leaflet/Leaflet/blob/main/src/map/Map.js>>,
> >>> and neither seem to have a notice at the top of their source files.
> >>>
> >>> Regarding the documentation, currently I would consider the docs
> >>> to be MIT Licensed although with the rest of the project, but I
> >>> see why the docs been CC0 being helpful. Let me think on that as
> >>> it's a great point.
> >>>
> >>> Many thanks,
> >>>
> >>> James
> >>>
> >>>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> *From:* Jody Garnett <jody.garnett at gmail.com <mailto:
> jody.garnett at gmail.com>
> >>> <mailto:jody.garnett at gmail.com <mailto:jody.garnett at gmail.com>>>
> >>> *Sent:* 19 September 2024 04:42
> >>> *To:* James Milner <jamesmilner22 at hotmail.com <mailto:
> jamesmilner22 at hotmail.com>
> >>> <mailto:jamesmilner22 at hotmail.com <mailto:jamesmilner22 at hotmail.com>>>
> >>> *Cc:* incubator at lists.osgeo.org <mailto:incubator at lists.osgeo.org>
> >>> <mailto:incubator at lists.osgeo.org <mailto:incubator at lists.osgeo.org>>
> <incubator at lists.osgeo.org <mailto:incubator at lists.osgeo.org>
> >>> <mailto:incubator at lists.osgeo.org <mailto:incubator at lists.osgeo.org>>>;
> Nick Bearman
> >>> <nick at nickbearman.com <mailto:nick at nickbearman.com> <mailto:
> nick at nickbearman.com <mailto:nick at nickbearman.com>>>
> >>> *Subject:* Re: [Incubator] Motion: Project Terra Draw community
> >>> project initative
> >>> I am looking for an assurance from you that the license has been
> >>> applied correctly.
> >>>
> >>> *The assur*ance that you have checked, and perhaps showing the PR
> >>> would be /just fine./
> >>>
> >>> When reviewing I try and find:
> >>>
> >>> 1. An example of a file that can be fixed:
> >>>
> https://github.com/JamesLMilner/terra-draw/blob/main/src/store/store.spec.ts
> <
> https://github.com/JamesLMilner/terra-draw/blob/main/src/store/store.spec.ts
> >
> >>> <
> https://github.com/JamesLMilner/terra-draw/blob/main/src/store/store.spec.ts>
> <
> https://github.com/JamesLMilner/terra-draw/blob/main/src/store/store.spec.ts&gt
> ;>
> >>> This file does not have a header - do you expect it to?
> >>>
> >>> 2. An example of a check from another project (this is a MIT
> >>> project that recently became a community project):
> >>>
> https://github.com/microsoft/torchgeo/blob/main/torchgeo/datasets/agb_live_woody_density.py
> <
> https://github.com/microsoft/torchgeo/blob/main/torchgeo/datasets/agb_live_woody_density.py
> >
> >>> <
> https://github.com/microsoft/torchgeo/blob/main/torchgeo/datasets/agb_live_woody_density.py>
> <
> https://github.com/microsoft/torchgeo/blob/main/torchgeo/datasets/agb_live_woody_density.py&gt
> ;>
> >>>
> >>> An example of a js file from another community project:
> >>>
> https://github.com/mapcentia/vidi/blob/master/public/js/gc2/gc2table.js <
> https://github.com/mapcentia/vidi/blob/master/public/js/gc2/gc2table.js>
> >>> <
> https://github.com/mapcentia/vidi/blob/master/public/js/gc2/gc2table.js> <
> https://github.com/mapcentia/vidi/blob/master/public/js/gc2/gc2table.js&gt
> ;>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Does that help?
> >>>
> >>> Also a question for you as an MIT project... do you consider the
> >>> MIT license as applying to the documentation?
> >>> https://github.com/JamesLMilner/terra-draw/tree/main/docs <
> https://github.com/JamesLMilner/terra-draw/tree/main/docs>
> >>> <https://github.com/JamesLMilner/terra-draw/tree/main/docs> <
> https://github.com/JamesLMilner/terra-draw/tree/main/docs>>
> >>>
> >>> Some project choose a CC license?
> >>> https://chooser-beta.creativecommons.org/ <
> https://chooser-beta.creativecommons.org/>
> >>> <https://chooser-beta.creativecommons.org/> <
> https://chooser-beta.creativecommons.org/>>
> >>>
> >>> * CC0 or CC BY 4.0 is close in spirit to MIT allowing writers
> >>> to remix the documentation into their own work
> >>> * CC BY-SA 4.0 is close in spirit to GPL (copyleft approach
> >>> must retain license)
> >>> * MIT ... um ... consider the documentation source code (imply
> >>> that authors need to cite / quote your work like a book)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Also many thanks :)
> >>> - -
> >>> Jody Garnett
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Sep 16, 2024 at 10:39:08 AM, James Milner
> >>> <jamesmilner22 at hotmail.com <mailto:jamesmilner22 at hotmail.com> <mailto:
> jamesmilner22 at hotmail.com <mailto:jamesmilner22 at hotmail.com>>>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi Jody,
> >>>
> >>> Hope you're well. Thanks for raising this - I wasn't sure if
> >>> it was needed for me to respond here or Nick, but can you
> >>> clarify what you mean by file headers in this situation?
> >>> Terra Draw is MIT licensed and the released library does not
> >>> currently have any runtime dependencies (we do have some
> >>> development time dependencies). In addition we do adapt some
> >>> code from the MIT licensed Turf.js project and we call this
> >>> out at the start of files where it happens. I just raised a
> >>> PR that standardises and clarifies those acknowledgements a
> >>> bit better.
> >>>
> >>> Let me know if I can do anything else I can do to ensure this
> >>> requirement is met.
> >>>
> >>> Many thanks,
> >>>
> >>> James
> >>>
> >>>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> *From:* Incubator <incubator-bounces at lists.osgeo.org <mailto:
> incubator-bounces at lists.osgeo.org>
> >>> <mailto:incubator-bounces at lists.osgeo.org <mailto:
> incubator-bounces at lists.osgeo.org>>> on behalf of Jody
> >>> Garnett via Incubator <incubator at lists.osgeo.org <mailto:
> incubator at lists.osgeo.org>
> >>> <mailto:incubator at lists.osgeo.org <mailto:incubator at lists.osgeo.org>>>
> >>> *Sent:* 10 September 2024 16:02
> >>> *To:* Nick Bearman <nick at nickbearman.com <mailto:nick at nickbearman.com>
> >>> <mailto:nick at nickbearman.com <mailto:nick at nickbearman.com>>>
> >>> *Cc:* incubator at lists.osgeo.org <mailto:incubator at lists.osgeo.org>
> >>> <mailto:incubator at lists.osgeo.org <mailto:incubator at lists.osgeo.org>>
> <incubator at lists.osgeo.org <mailto:incubator at lists.osgeo.org>
> >>> <mailto:incubator at lists.osgeo.org <mailto:incubator at lists.osgeo.org>>>
> >>> *Subject:* Re: [Incubator] Motion: Project Terra Draw
> >>> community project initative
> >>> You can propose Nick,
> >>>
> >>> I think Regina just went over the checklist
> >>> <
> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Incubation_Committee#Step_1:_Add_OSGeo_Website_Project_Page>
> <
> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Incubation_Committee#Step_1:_Add_OSGeo_Website_Project_Page>>
> for
> >>> website page?
> >>>
> >>> For the osgeo community project checklist
> >>> <
> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Incubation_Committee#Step_2:_Join_OSGeo_Community_Projects_Initiative>
> <
> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Incubation_Committee#Step_2:_Join_OSGeo_Community_Projects_Initiative&gt
> ;>...
> >>>
> >>> I am especially interested in conforming that Terra Draw has
> >>> gone through their file headers (this is the first step of
> >>> the code providence review that takes such a long time in
> >>> incubation).
> >>>
> >>> Context: For the website we ask that they choose a license.
> >>> To be community project we ask that they check that it is
> >>> applied correctly.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> - -
> >>> Jody Garnett
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Sep 10, 2024 at 8:12:19 AM, Nick Bearman via Incubator
> >>> <incubator at lists.osgeo.org <mailto:incubator at lists.osgeo.org>
> >>> <mailto:incubator at lists.osgeo.org <mailto:incubator at lists.osgeo.org>>>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> (I think I can formally propose this, tell me if I am
> >>> wrong and it should be Jody as Chair!)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I would like to make the following motion:
> >>>
> >>> > Motion to include Terra Draw project in OSGeo community
> >>> initiative
> >>>
> >>> The repository is here
> >>> https://github.com/JamesLMilner/terra-draw <
> https://github.com/JamesLMilner/terra-draw>
> >>> <https://github.com/JamesLMilner/terra-draw> <
> https://github.com/JamesLMilner/terra-draw>> and meets
> >>> our OSGeo
> >>> community initiative checklist (thanks Regina)
> >>>
> >>> The motion is held open for two weeks until 24th September.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Angelos Tzotsos
> >>> Arnulf Christl
> >>> Bob (CI-StPaul) Basques
> >>> Brian M Hamlin
> >>> Daniel Morissette
> >>> Dimitris Kotzinos
> >>> Frank Warmerdam
> >>> Jo Cook
> >>> Jody Garnett (chair)
> >>> Michael Smith
> >>> Nick Bearman
> >>> Regina Obe (+1 from 28th Aug)
> >>> Steve Lime
> >>> Tom Kralidis
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Best wishes,
> >>> Nick.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 30/08/2024 10:10, James Milner via Incubator wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hey Jody and Regina,
> >>>
> >>> Thanks both for getting back to me with the review.
> >>> Apologies, I probably could have been a bit more
> >>> detailed in my original email after viewing some of
> >>> the other email applications! I followed the
> >>> instructions provided, it was all very clear no real
> >>> feedback except I missed where to upload the 'framed
> >>> screenshot' image but figured it out eventually. The
> >>> template images were really helpful with the correct
> >>> dimensions and layouts needed.
> >>>
> >>> I would actually say the more complicated part, and
> >>> maybe I missed something here, was the initial
> >>> process of getting here. I was mostly following
> >>> instructions for Incubation Committee - OSGeo
> >>> <
> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Incubation_Committee#Step_1:_Add_OSGeo_Website_Project_Page>
> <
> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Incubation_Committee#Step_1:_Add_OSGeo_Website_Project_Page>>
> rather
> >>> than Add a Project - OSGeo
> >>> <https://www.osgeo.org/community/getting-started-osgeo/add-a-project/>
> <https://www.osgeo.org/community/getting-started-osgeo/add-a-project/>>
> which
> >>> may have confused things slightly, as it took me a
> >>> while to figure out how to sign up for an OSGeo ID
> >>> then get the mantra, then also sign up for the
> >>> mailing list. Maybe the wiki should just link to the
> >>> OSGeo Add a Project page rather than having two
> >>> 'sources of truth' so to speak? I also wonder if the
> >>> OSGeo signup process could be simplified to use some
> >>> sort of automated CAPTCHA rather than emailing the
> >>> mantra? Hope this is helpful feedback.
> >>>
> >>> I have submitted the Terra Draw project for review,
> >>> let me know if there are any adjustments to make.
> >>>
> >>> All the best,
> >>>
> >>> James
> >>>
> >>>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> *From:* Jody Garnett <jody.garnett at gmail.com <mailto:
> jody.garnett at gmail.com>>
> >>> <mailto:jody.garnett at gmail.com <mailto:jody.garnett at gmail.com>>
> >>> *Sent:* 28 August 2024 20:47
> >>> *To:* Regina Obe <lr at pcorp.us <mailto:lr at pcorp.us>> <mailto:
> lr at pcorp.us <mailto:lr at pcorp.us>>
> >>> *Cc:* James Milner <jamesmilner22 at hotmail.com <mailto:
> jamesmilner22 at hotmail.com>>
> >>> <mailto:jamesmilner22 at hotmail.com <mailto:jamesmilner22 at hotmail.com>>;
> >>> incubator at lists.osgeo.org <mailto:incubator at lists.osgeo.org>
> >>> <mailto:incubator at lists.osgeo.org <mailto:incubator at lists.osgeo.org>><
> incubator at lists.osgeo.org <mailto:incubator at lists.osgeo.org>>
> >>> <mailto:incubator at lists.osgeo.org <mailto:incubator at lists.osgeo.org>>
> >>> *Subject:* Re: [Incubator] Terra Draw
> >>> Seems good, thanks for your application James and
> >>> review Regina.
> >>>
> >>> James I would really *love* your feedback on the new
> >>> "Add a project
> >>> <https://www.osgeo.org/community/getting-started-osgeo/add-a-project/>"
> <
> https://www.osgeo.org/community/getting-started-osgeo/add-a-project/>&quot
> ;>
> >>> instructions. Easy feedback like typos, but most
> >>> importantly and confusion or questions you have.
> >>>
> >>> I have added "project author" to your profile.
> >>> - -
> >>> Jody Garnett
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Aug 28, 2024 at 1:28:31 PM, Regina Obe
> >>> <lr at pcorp.us <mailto:lr at pcorp.us> <mailto:lr at pcorp.us <mailto:
> lr at pcorp.us>>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> +1 looks okay to me.
> >>>
> >>> 1. I see license file
> >>> 2. contributing file
> >>> 3. getting started guides -
> >>>
> https://github.com/JamesLMilner/terra-draw/blob/main/guides/1.GETTING_STARTED.md
> <
> https://github.com/JamesLMilner/terra-draw/blob/main/guides/1.GETTING_STARTED.md
> >
> >>> <
> https://github.com/JamesLMilner/terra-draw/blob/main/guides/1.GETTING_STARTED.md>
> <
> https://github.com/JamesLMilner/terra-draw/blob/main/guides/1.GETTING_STARTED.md&gt
> ;>
> >>> 4. Many releases
> >>> 5. Healthy number of contributors
> >>>
> >>> @Jody Garnett <mailto:jody.garnett at gmail.com <mailto:
> jody.garnett at gmail.com>> any
> >>> concerns?
> >>>
> >>> *From:* Incubator
> >>> <incubator-bounces at lists.osgeo.org <mailto:
> incubator-bounces at lists.osgeo.org>
> >>> <mailto:incubator-bounces at lists.osgeo.org <mailto:
> incubator-bounces at lists.osgeo.org>>> *On
> >>> Behalf Of *James Milner via Incubator
> >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 28, 2024 2:54 PM
> >>> *To:* incubator at lists.osgeo.org <mailto:incubator at lists.osgeo.org>
> >>> <mailto:incubator at lists.osgeo.org <mailto:incubator at lists.osgeo.org>>
> >>> *Subject:* [Incubator] Terra Draw
> >>>
> >>> Incubation committee:
> >>>
> >>> I would like to ask permission to list my project
> >>> "Terra Draw" on the OSGeo website in order to
> >>> share my work with the community.
> >>>
> >>> Terra Draw is a JavaScript library which allows
> >>> for drawing and editing of geometries on maps. It
> >>> works with a selection of different mapping
> >>> providers, including Leaflet, MapLibre and
> >>> OpenLayers and has been going for over 2 years
> >>> now and I am eager to help more people use it.
> >>>
> >>> The repository is located here:
> >>> https://www.github.com/JamesLMilner/terra-draw <
> https://www.github.com/JamesLMilner/terra-draw>
> >>> <https://www.github.com/JamesLMilner/terra-draw> <
> https://www.github.com/JamesLMilner/terra-draw>> and
> >>> is released under the MIT license
> >>>
> >>> My OSGeo userid is "jameslmilner" and I will need
> >>> permission to create a project page.
> >>>
> >>> Many thanks,
> >>>
> >>> James
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
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