[Live-demo] OSGeo live - new candidate: Halestudio
Angelos Tzotsos
gcpp.kalxas at gmail.com
Sat Jul 8 05:01:16 PDT 2017
Hi,
JRE should not be included in the package, since we already provide it
at the OS level. That would save several MBs.
Cheers,
Angelos
On 07/08/2017 03:06 AM, Cameron Shorter wrote:
> Hi Thorsten,
>
> Great to hear your interest to get involved in OSGeo-Live. Re questions:
>
> 1. You have missed the deadline to be included on OSGeo-Live 11.0. The
> following release will be scheduled for next year.
>
> 2. Yes, we strongly prefer a .deb file for installation. What is
> involved in adding a project to OSGeo-Live is described here:
> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc#How_to_add_a_project_to_OSGeoLive
>
> Cheers, Cameron
>
>
> On 7/7/17 11:32 pm, Thorsten Reitz wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> in two weeks, many of us will be in Marne la Vallee and we could meet
>> briefly to pick up the discussion on including hale studio in
>> OSGeolive again.
>>
>> A couple of questions:
>>
>> * What is the deadline to include halestudio in stealth mode in the
>> next release?
>> * As far as I understood, we need to provide an installation script
>> or an installer package - I seem to remember you wanted to have a
>> *.deb?
>> * The actual software package with JRE (e.g. as DMG) is about 170MB
>> big. We can't really remove a lot from that - the included sample
>> data is only about 1MB.
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> Thorsten
>>
>> Am 16.05.2017 um 16:25 schrieb Dirk Frigne:
>>> Hi Cameron,
>>>
>>> Stealth mode in the first release should be great!
>>> Halestudio is used in several EU INSPIRE projects, and we plan to setup
>>> a talk and a topic talk about OSGeo live on FOSS4G Paris.
>>> There will be a specific topic talk for the INSPIRE community.
>>>
>>> If we could disclose there the "stealth mode' we could motivate the
>>> community to give feedabck.
>>>
>>> The other point I want to address is to reach out to the dataproviders,
>>> to become involved with the OSGeolive project.
>>>
>>> As we descussed last month, we should try to find more volunteers to
>>> support the project and become involved in some testing. By addressing
>>> the product owners *and* the dataproviders, able to showcase their data
>>> with OSGeo tools, I hope to strengthen the community.
>>>
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>> Dirk
>>>
>>> On 2017-05-16 14:26, Cameron Shorter wrote:
>>>> Hi Dirk,
>>>>
>>>> Looking through your responses, Halestudio looks to be a very strong
>>>> candidate for including on OSGeo-Live.
>>>>
>>>> Whether we have time to get it included in time for OSGeo-Live 11.0 is
>>>> questionable.
>>>>
>>>> For prior projects we have often taken two releases to onboard the
>>>> project to OSGeo-Live. Firstly we include the project in stealth mode.
>>>> (It is installed, but the docs are not linked into the main docs,
>>>> so new
>>>> users don't accidentally use it. This gives us more time to do QA.
>>>>
>>>> I'll be interested to hear thoughts from other OSGeo-Live folks. I'd
>>>> especially like to hear from anyone who has experience with Halestudio
>>>> to hear their thoughts.
>>>>
>>>> Warm regards, Cameron
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 15/5/17 10:44 pm, Dirk Frigne wrote:
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> Hereby we would like to ask if hale studio is appropriate to be
>>>>> included
>>>>> on the next OSGeoLive release.
>>>>> Below you can find the answers to the application questions as
>>>>> described
>>>>> on the wiki page.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Please describe your application:
>>>>>
>>>>> What is its name? hale studio
>>>>> What is the home page URL?
>>>>> https://www.wetransform.to/products/halestudio/
>>>>> Which OSI-approved Open Source License is used? GNU Lesser
>>>>> General
>>>>> Public Licence (LGPL) v3.0
>>>>> What does the application do and how does it add value to the
>>>>> Geospatial stack of software? hale studio enables you to transform
>>>>> and
>>>>> harmonise spatial data, with a focus on highly complex data sets.
>>>>> Set up
>>>>> reporting, analysis and data publishing workflows easily by defining
>>>>> schema mappings. Furthermore, hale studio documents the data
>>>>> transformation process and its impact on data quality.
>>>>> Does the application make use of OGC standards? Which
>>>>> versions of
>>>>> the standards? Client or server? You may wish to add comments
>>>>> about how
>>>>> standards are used.
>>>>> Read and write GML (2.1.2 to 3.3)
>>>>> WFS client (1.1, 2.0, 2.0.2), including support for WFS
>>>>> Transactions
>>>>> WMS client (1.1.0, 1.1.1, 1.3.0)
>>>>> Simple Features SQL
>>>>> JSON (RFC 7159, ECMA-404)
>>>>> GeoJSON (IETF RFC 7946)
>>>>> What language is it written in? Java, Groovy
>>>>> Which version of the application should be included in the next
>>>>> OSGeo-Live release? 3.3.0
>>>>>
>>>>> Stability is very important to us on OSGeo-Live. If a new user
>>>>> finds a
>>>>> bug in one application, it will tarnish the reputation of all other
>>>>> OSGeo-Live applications as well. (We pay most attention to the
>>>>> following
>>>>> answers):
>>>>>
>>>>> If risk adverse organisations have deployed your application
>>>>> into
>>>>> production, it would imply that these organisations have verified the
>>>>> stability of your software. Has the application been rolled out to
>>>>> production into risk (ideally risk adverse) organisations? Please
>>>>> mention some of these organisations
>>>>> State of Hamburg (Germany)
>>>>> State of Bavaria (Germany)
>>>>> State of Rhineland-Palatinate (Germany)
>>>>> Institute of Forest Management of Baden-Württemberg
>>>>> (Germany)
>>>>> Armed Forces (Germany)
>>>>> SMWA Sachsen (Germany)
>>>>> GDI Südhessen (96 districts and municipalities in Germany)
>>>>> Prisma Solutions (Austria)
>>>>> IGP (Portugal)
>>>>> IRCELINE (Belgium)
>>>>> HL Consulting (Belgium)
>>>>> Statkart (Norway)
>>>>> European Environmental Agency (Denmark)
>>>>>
>>>>> Most of these organisations sponsor continued development of the
>>>>> software through support contracts.
>>>>>
>>>>> Open HUB provides metrics to help assess the health of a
>>>>> project.
>>>>> E.g.:http://adhoc.osgeo.osuosl.org/livedvd/docs/en/metrics.html
>>>>> Could
>>>>> you please ensure that your project is registered with Open HUB, and
>>>>> Open HUB has been updated to reference the correct code repository(s)
>>>>> for your project. What is the Open HUB URL for your project?
>>>>> https://www.openhub.net/p/halestudio
>>>>> What is the size of the user community? You can often answer
>>>>> this by
>>>>> mentioning downloads, or describing a healthy, busy email list?
>>>>> Downloads per year: 4.000 to 5.000
>>>>> Posts on the forum per year: 80 to 100
>>>>> What is the size of your developer community?
>>>>> At wetransform: 3 FTE
>>>>> Outside wetransform: 2-3 major contributions per year, e.g.
>>>>> SQLite reader, Geoserver app-schema integration
>>>>> Do you have a bug free, stable release?
>>>>> There are stable releases for production usage available
>>>>> since
>>>>> release 2.0.1 (2010). A release history is available through GitHub:
>>>>> https://github.com/halestudio/hale/releases
>>>>> The latest release is 3.2.0, with version 3.3.0 being
>>>>> released
>>>>> this week (19.05.2017)
>>>>> Please discuss the level of testing that your project has gone
>>>>> through.
>>>>> hale studio's alignment creation and transformation
>>>>> capabilities
>>>>> have been thoroughly tested in a multitude of data transformation
>>>>> projects both by its developers as well as its open source user
>>>>> community.
>>>>> Furthermore, continuous integration tests are performed
>>>>> by our
>>>>> build infrastructure athttps://builds.wetransform.to on every
>>>>> commit to
>>>>> the master branch. The integration test suite is continuously
>>>>> extended
>>>>> with every new feature or problem report. We publish detailed test
>>>>> reports using Allure.
>>>>> Every release candidate of hale studio undergoes additional
>>>>> manual/explorative testing.
>>>>> How long has the project has had mature code?
>>>>> Version 1.0 of hale studio was released in December
>>>>> 2009. Since
>>>>> the release of version 2.0.1 in 2010, the code base can be regarded
>>>>> mature.
>>>>> OSGeo-Live is targeted at applications that people can use
>>>>> rather
>>>>> than libraries. Does the application have a user interface
>>>>> (possibly a
>>>>> command line interface) that a user can interact with? (We do make an
>>>>> exception for Incubated OSGeo Libraries, and will include Project
>>>>> Overviews for these libraries, even if they don't have a user
>>>>> interface.)
>>>>> hale studio has a graphical user interface to create
>>>>> transformation projects and perform data transformations.
>>>>> With around 50 applications installed on OSGeo-Live, us core
>>>>> packagers do not have the time to liaise with every single project
>>>>> email
>>>>> list for each OSGeo-Live release. So we require a volunteer (or
>>>>> two) to
>>>>> take responsibility for liaising between OSGeo-Live and the project's
>>>>> communities. This volunteer will be responsible for ensuring the
>>>>> install
>>>>> scripts and English documentation are updated by someone for each
>>>>> OSGeo-Live release. Also test that the installed application and
>>>>> Quickstart documentation works as expected on release candidate
>>>>> releases
>>>>> of OSGeo-Live. Who will act as the project's liaison person?
>>>>> Simon Templer (st at wetransform.to)
>>>>> Florian Esser (fe at wetransform.to) as backup
>>>>> OSGeo-Live is Ubuntu Linux based. Our installation
>>>>> preference is:
>>>>> 1. Install from UbuntuGIS or DebianGIS
>>>>> 2. Install .deb files from a PPA
>>>>> 3. Write a custom install script
>>>>>
>>>>> Can you please discuss how your application will be installed? A
>>>>> custom
>>>>> installation script will be used to extract the application
>>>>> archive at
>>>>> the appropriate location and create an application launcher.
>>>>>
>>>>> OSGeo-Live is memory and disk constrained. Can the
>>>>> application run
>>>>> in 512 Meg of RAM?
>>>>> Yes, though we recommend 1 GB or more. Very large/complex
>>>>> transformation projects will benefit from 2GB+.
>>>>> How much disk space will be required to install the
>>>>> application and
>>>>> a suitable example application?
>>>>> ~380 MiB including example data sets and Java runtime
>>>>> We aim to reduce disk space by having all applications make
>>>>> use of a
>>>>> common dataset. We encourage applications to make use of the example
>>>>> datasets already installed:
>>>>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Add_Project#Example_Datasets If
>>>>> another dataset would be more appropriate, please discuss here. Is it
>>>>> appropriate, to remove existing demo datasets which may already be
>>>>> included in the standard release.
>>>>> In the standard release, some demo datasets are
>>>>> included. These
>>>>> may be removed for the installation on the OSGeo Live DVD. The
>>>>> default
>>>>> ‘Natural Earth’ dataset could be used to illustrate the potential
>>>>> of the
>>>>> application as an ETL tool with respect to INSPIRE and complex
>>>>> schemas.
>>>>> However, this would be better illustrated by providing a more
>>>>> specialized INSPIRE dataset.
>>>>> Each OSGeo-Live application requires a Project Overview
>>>>> available
>>>>> under a CC By and a Quickstart available under a CC By-SA license.
>>>>> (You
>>>>> may release under a second license as well). Will you produce this?
>>>>> Yes. Both the Project Overview and Quickstart will be
>>>>> created
>>>>> based on the existing project documentation, help and demos.
>>>>> In past releases, we have included Windows and Mac
>>>>> installers for
>>>>> some applications. It is likely we won't have space for these in
>>>>> future
>>>>> releases. However, if there is room, would you be wishing to include
>>>>> Windows and/or Mac installers?
>>>>> Both Windows and Mac installers exist for the project.
>>
>> --
>> Thorsten Reitz
>> Founder
>>
>> E-Mail: tr at wetransform.to
>> Web: www.wetransform.to
>> Phone: +49 179 59 08 203
>>
>> wetransform GmbH
>> Fraunhoferstr. 5
>> 64283 Darmstadt
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Angelos Tzotsos, PhD
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