MapServer 5.0 WMS, requiring styles...

[Kralidis,Tom [Burlington]]

FYI I've started a note to Google Earth Help via Google Groups (I think
this is the right place) at:

http://groups.google.com/group/earth-free/browse_thread/thread/d95d6a64b
86cbed1

..Tom


> -----Original Message-----
> From: UMN MapServer Developers List 
> [mailto:MAPSERVER-DEV at LISTS.UMN.EDU] On Behalf Of 
> Kralidis,Tom [Burlington]
> Sent: 17 October, 2007 3:08 PM
> To: MAPSERVER-DEV at LISTS.UMN.EDU
> Subject: Re: [UMN_MAPSERVER-DEV] MapServer 5.0 WMS, requiring 
> styles...
> 
>  
> Comments on STYLES= :
>  
> - So if one builds MapServer and wants, say, WFS support, 
> --with-wfs, for example, means "sorta WFS", and you would 
> need additional mapfile metadata to ensure WFS proper?
> - if someone wants to serve up quick and dirty maps, then CGI 
> mode mode=map&... is great for that
> - I think this introduces a long term hassle just to band-aid 
> this particular issue
> - In MapServer's case, because we don't support multiple WMS 
> STYLES, STYLES= or STYLES=default is what we support.  
> If/when we ever support multiple WMS STYLES (I think I came 
> across this a week or so ago), then STYLES= becomes 
> especially important.
>  
> I think this is an example of a circumstance on a relatively 
> lax implemented (i.e.alot of WMS software implements the 
> venerable 'default', but they implement it nonetheless), but 
> REQUIRED, parameter in an OGC spec, which has little 
> relevance to the MapServer world, hence the evolution of this 
> issue, IMHO.
>  
> From the service provider point of view, you either want to 
> support OGC specifications or you don't.  Having all sorts of 
> hooks in the code as a result of, say, ticket 1088, is not 
> the way to go.
>  
> At the same time, there are a lot of users who are tripped up 
> in the WMS clients now.  My question then is that the 
> software they use to connect to MapServer via WMS will 
> trigger a ServiceException on ANY WMS server (CubeWerx, etc.) 
> implementation.  So this is as much a Google Earth or ArcIMS issue.
>  
> hobu warned me...
>  
> ..Tom
>  
> 
> ________________________________
> 
> From: UMN MapServer Developers List on behalf of Frank Warmerdam
> Sent: Tue 16-Oct-07 11:33
> To: MAPSERVER-DEV at LISTS.UMN.EDU
> Subject: Re: [UMN_MAPSERVER-DEV] MapServer 5.0 WMS, requiring 
> styles...
> 
> 
> 
> Frank Warmerdam wrote:
> > I will write a tiny RFC on this issue.
> 
> 
> Folks,
> 
> Following up on this, the RFC is at:
> 
>    http://mapserver.gis.umn.edu/development/rfc/ms-rfc-35
> 
> I would appreciate comment for a day or two and then I will 
> call for a vote.
> 
> Best regards,
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