A confused Network Admin
Ed McNierney
ed at TOPOZONE.COM
Wed Mar 2 09:06:06 PST 2005
Christine -
It is actually not very complicated. You're using trying to start using
a LOT of different technologies all at once. Most people don't do that,
so that's why relatively few people can be expected to be as frustrated
as you are <g>.
For example, MapScript is a PHP module. Most users who want to start
using PHP MapScript are PHP users who would like some maps. If you were
a PHP user and familiar with PHP and modules, most of your recent email
conversations would be straightforward and obvious. It's perfectly OK
that you are new to all that, but don't blame MapScript. It's not being
complicated - it's pretty straightforward. You'd be having the same
problems with ANY external PHP module.
I'll remind you of my first email to you. MapScript is NOT a "MapServer
module". There is a large library of mapmaking functionality in the
MapServer suite. All that code (think of it as a small collection of
related DLLs) has been wrapped into several interfaces. One of those is
the MapServer CGI program, which allows CGI requests to be made against
the libraries, and one is the PHP MapScript module, which lets PHP
scripts call functions in the libraries. They are completely
independent of each other - neither one requires the other. Some users
use both, and your consultant seems to want to do that. But they are
two separate things. You do not need to have MapScript installed to use
the MapServer CGI.
You should go back to the error message you reported from your working
PHP script. As was mentioned, your script cannot load a module from a
file that is evidently there. That means that (a) the script doesn't
have permission to load that module or (b) that module has dependencies
it cannot find.
The first place I'd look is whether the C:\PHP directory is on the
search path of the user context running in IIS (usually the
IUSR_<machinename> account). You can probably just add that directory
to the system search path, although you should probably restart IIS
after doing that (or at least unload the site you're testing).
- Ed
Ed McNierney
TopoZone.com
-----Original Message-----
From: UMN MapServer Users List [mailto:MAPSERVER-USERS at LISTS.UMN.EDU] On
Behalf Of Lisi, Christine
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 11:51 AM
To: MAPSERVER-USERS at LISTS.UMN.EDU
Subject: Re: [UMN_MAPSERVER-USERS] A confused Network Admin
The consultant told me to have both so I don't understand. MapScript is
a MapServer module, no?
Christine Lisi
Application Specialist
Management Information Systems * City of Delray Beach * 100 NW First
Avenue, Delray Beach, FL 33444
Phone, 561-243-7142 * Fax, 561-243-7166 * eMail, Lisi at MyDelrayBeach.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Spencer [mailto:pspencer at dmsolutions.ca]
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 11:44 AM
To: Lisi, Christine
Cc: MAPSERVER-USERS at LISTS.UMN.EDU
Subject: Re: [UMN_MAPSERVER-USERS] A confused Network Admin
Christine,
you don't (normally) need both MapServer and MapScript ... you would use
one or the other. And the versions wouldn't have to match (except
perhaps for dependencies).
MapScript is completely self-contained ...
Paul
Lisi, Christine wrote:
> OK, Paul's script now works and returns no errors - also sees
MapScript.
> The way I accomplished this was that I downloaded PHP MapScript
version
> 4.5 for PHP 5.0.3 (thank you Yewondwossen!). It says it's compatible
> with MapServer 4.5, but I can't find that version on the MapServer
site.
> The latest listed is 4.4.1. Why oh why does this all have to be so
> complicated?! Does anyone know where I can download MapServer 4.5?
>
> My other concern is that many of the .dll files in this MapScript 4.5
> version are older than those in MapServer. I did replace the
gdal12.dll
> in MapServer with the version 1.2.5 from MapScript 4.5 because it
states
> in the README.txt that MapScript requires this version. I hope this
> doesn't mess things up in the long run.
>
> Is anyone else as frustrated as I am?
>
> Christine Lisi
> Application Specialist
>
> Management Information Systems * City of Delray Beach * 100 NW First
> Avenue, Delray Beach, FL 33444
>
> Phone, 561-243-7142 * Fax, 561-243-7166 * eMail,
Lisi at MyDelrayBeach.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: UMN MapServer Users List [mailto:MAPSERVER-USERS at LISTS.UMN.EDU]
On
> Behalf Of Paul Spencer
> Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 9:15 AM
> To: MAPSERVER-USERS at LISTS.UMN.EDU
> Subject: Re: [UMN_MAPSERVER-USERS] A confused Network Admin
>
> slight clarification, the php module name is case sensitive and for
> mapscript it is actually "MapScript".
>
> For the record, my test script for testing MapScript extension is a
> little simpler :)
>
> <?php
> if (!extension_loaded('MapScript'))
> dl('php_mapscript_44.'.PHP_SHLIB_SUFFIX);
> phpinfo();
> ?>
>
> Also, for most purposes, it is more convenient to make a copy of
> php_mapscript_44.dll and name it php_mapscript.dll, then your scripts
> can all reference php_mapscript.dll as the most recent version. When
> 4.6 comes out, you can test your apps then upgrade everything by
making
> php_mapscript.dll a copy of php_mapscript_46.dll
>
> Cheers
>
> Paul
>
> William Bronsema wrote:
>
>>Also note that the extension_loaded check is not the extension_name
>>(i.e. php_mapscript_44) rather it is the module name itself. In this
>>case it is "mapscript". Your code should be:
>>
>>
>>
>>if(!extension_loaded('mapscript'))
>>
>>
>>
>>HTH,
>>
>>Bill
>>
>>
>>
>>________________________________________________
>>William A. Bronsema, C.E.T.
>>Applications and Software Development,
>>DM Solutions Group Inc.
>>
>>
>
>
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>
>>*From:* UMN MapServer Users List
>
> [mailto:MAPSERVER-USERS at LISTS.UMN.EDU]
>
>>*On Behalf Of *Jeff Portwine
>>*Sent:* March 2, 2005 8:19 AM
>>*To:* MAPSERVER-USERS at LISTS.UMN.EDU
>>*Subject:* Re: [UMN_MAPSERVER-USERS] A confused Network Admin
>>
>>
>>
>>Make sure that you have the <?PHP line in front of everything and
>
> that
>
>>the script is ended with ?>.
>>
>>
>>
>>I think in the original example he just had <? which should be ok,
>
> but
>
>>I like to use <?PHP myself. It looks like your script omitted the
>
> '<',
>
>>so it wasn't being recognized as a php script and was just reading the
>>script as though it were html and outputting the text to your browser.
>>
>>
>>
>>Hope this helps,
>>
>>Jeff
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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