[Marketing] Marketing Digest, Vol 56, Issue 4

[Cameron Shorter]

Jeroen,
While I also have a mild preference for the term of "Ambassador" over 
"Advocate", I'm very mindful that we have talked around this issue for a 
long time without any action. I think it important that we wrap this up 
so we can move onto other OSGeo opportunities.

So far, I don't believe we have had any major objection to allowing 
OSGeo members to self register themselves, so that Conferences and the 
like can find authoritative speakers. So unless I see a strong backlash 
of opinion, I'm going to push ahead of the next couple of weeks to make 
it happen.

A few more comments inline below...

On 10/06/12 01:45, Jeroen Ticheler wrote:
> Hi Cameron,
> I'm not blocking the motion, that would require a -1.
Noted, thanks.
> I'm just giving a signal that I think the role is needed and should 
> have an appropriate title which adds value to OSGeo from a marketing 
> perspective. I doubt that Advocate does justice to that, also 
> considering that all CM's are advocates to OSGeo by default. The term 
> Ambassador has my preference honestly.
Agreed, but better to have Advocates than be blocked completely.
> It would have my preference if that role was indeed filled upon 
> invitation. A majority (is that indeed so !?) is in favor of a more 
> community driven, personal subscription process for such role. I'm 
> happy to support that if that is the decision. And I see at that point 
> no problem in giving them the name Ambassador. Our democratic process 
> at that point kind of gives self proclaimed Ambassadors the chance to 
> wear the title on OSGeo's behalf.

> Shouldn't we first vote on the way we select our ambassadors?
The process proposed is for self nomination.
This has been up for discussion for a month or so without strong dissent 
(that I noticed). Also floated in the IRC meeting without dissent.

> Are they self proclaimed or are they proposed by the board (or 
> marketing committee, some other committee)?
Self proclaimed, as per: 
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Advocate#Process_for_becoming_an_OSGeo_Advocate

> If that is clear, we can define the details of the profile (there has 
> been stuff written up already, that may need some changes depending on 
> how ambassadors are identified). And we can define the best name for 
> the profile.
> The most important is that we have an ambassadors program that really 
> adds value to OSGeo and does not duplicate or degrades CM's

I see the "OSGeo Advocate Register" as an advertising space, primarily 
for Charter Members, but which can be used by others as well.
I don't see it as a way to duplicate the role of the Charter Member, but 
rather to enhance it.


> My 2 cents
> Jeroen
>
> Op 9 jun. 2012 om 13:28 heeft Cameron Shorter 
> <cameron.shorter at gmail.com <mailto:cameron.shorter at gmail.com>> het 
> volgende geschreven:
>
>> Jeroen, Venkatesh,
>> If you wish to see a different title, then please suggest one, 
>> otherwise please don't block the motion unless you feel strongly that 
>> we should remove the role altogether. So far, I haven't heard anyone 
>> suggest a better title.
>> This is what has been debated so far:
>>
>>   * "OSGeo Ambassador" - Implies someone who is a selected by the
>>     board, rather the reality of a self appointed volunteer; concern
>>     this might have legal ramifications for OSGeo.
>>   * "OSGeo Speakers Bureau" - limiting the role to speaking and not
>>     very prestigious
>>   * "Authoritative OSGeo Personalities" - a bit long and informal
>>   * "OSGeo Advocate" - this was the final term decided upon
>>
>>
>>
>> On 09/06/12 19:51, Venkatesh Raghavan wrote:
>>> On 2012/06/09 16:46, Jeroen Ticheler wrote:
>>>> Apologies I was unable to attend the meeting.
>>>>
>>>> -0 from me.
>>>
>>> -0 from me too. To me member of OSGeo (charter or otherwise)
>>> is an OSGeo advocate.
>>>
>>> Venka
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I've read the logs and am not convinced this change makes sense. As 
>>>> Danniel noted the term advocate doesn't really provide the prestige 
>>>> we're looking for, we are all advocates.
>>>> My impression of the discussion on IRC is that the email exchanges 
>>>> have been largely ignored and have not been part of the meeting 
>>>> discussion. I think it needs more thought  before we decide on the 
>>>> name.
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Jeroen
>>>>
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>>
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Cameron Shorter
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