[Marketing] Marketing Digest, Vol 56, Issue 4

Sat Jun 9 23:56:47 PDT 2012

Thanks Cameron,
Your feedback is appreciated and I encourage you to proceed. 

I just read the minutes of the last board meeting stating that the board has a need for an Ambassador type of role besides the Advocate role as discussed here. So we could maybe start that discussion after establishing the Advocate role. See one before last point in the Notes section of the board meeting http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2012-06-07

Cheers,
Jeroen

Op 10 jun. 2012 om 02:14 heeft Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter at gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:

> Jeroen,
> While I also have a mild preference for the term of "Ambassador" over "Advocate", I'm very mindful that we have talked around this issue for a long time without any action. I think it important that we wrap this up so we can move onto other OSGeo opportunities.
> 
> So far, I don't believe we have had any major objection to allowing OSGeo members to self register themselves, so that Conferences and the like can find authoritative speakers. So unless I see a strong backlash of opinion, I'm going to push ahead of the next couple of weeks to make it happen.
> 
> A few more comments inline below...
> 
> On 10/06/12 01:45, Jeroen Ticheler wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Cameron,
>> I'm not blocking the motion, that would require a -1.
> Noted, thanks.
>> I'm just giving a signal that I think the role is needed and should have an appropriate title which adds value to OSGeo from a marketing perspective. I doubt that Advocate does justice to that, also considering that all CM's are advocates to OSGeo by default. The term Ambassador has my preference honestly. 
> Agreed, but better to have Advocates than be blocked completely.
>> It would have my preference if that role was indeed filled upon invitation. A majority (is that indeed so !?) is in favor of a more community driven, personal subscription process for such role. I'm happy to support that if that is the decision. And I see at that point no problem in giving them the name Ambassador. Our democratic process at that point kind of gives self proclaimed Ambassadors the chance to wear the title on OSGeo's behalf. 
> 
>> Shouldn't we first vote on the way we select our ambassadors?
> The process proposed is for self nomination.
> This has been up for discussion for a month or so without strong dissent (that I noticed). Also floated in the IRC meeting without dissent.
> 
>> Are they self proclaimed or are they proposed by the board (or marketing committee, some other committee)?
> Self proclaimed, as per: http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Advocate#Process_for_becoming_an_OSGeo_Advocate
> 
>> If that is clear, we can define the details of the profile (there has been stuff written up already, that may need some changes depending on how ambassadors are identified). And we can define the best name for the profile.
>> The most important is that we have an ambassadors program that really adds value to OSGeo and does not duplicate or degrades CM's
> 
> I see the "OSGeo Advocate Register" as an advertising space, primarily for Charter Members, but which can be used by others as well.
> I don't see it as a way to duplicate the role of the Charter Member, but rather to enhance it.
> 
> 
>> My 2 cents
>> Jeroen
>> 
>> Op 9 jun. 2012 om 13:28 heeft Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter at gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:
>> 
>>> Jeroen, Venkatesh,
>>> If you wish to see a different title, then please suggest one, otherwise please don't block the motion unless you feel strongly that we should remove the role altogether. So far, I haven't heard anyone suggest a better title.
>>> This is what has been debated so far:
>>> "OSGeo Ambassador" - Implies someone who is a selected by the board, rather the reality of a self appointed volunteer; concern this might have legal ramifications for OSGeo.
>>> "OSGeo Speakers Bureau" - limiting the role to speaking and not very prestigious
>>> "Authoritative OSGeo Personalities" - a bit long and informal
>>> "OSGeo Advocate" - this was the final term decided upon
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 09/06/12 19:51, Venkatesh Raghavan wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> On 2012/06/09 16:46, Jeroen Ticheler wrote: 
>>>>> Apologies I was unable to attend the meeting. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -0 from me. 
>>>> 
>>>> -0 from me too. To me member of OSGeo (charter or otherwise) 
>>>> is an OSGeo advocate. 
>>>> 
>>>> Venka 
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I've read the logs and am not convinced this change makes sense. As Danniel noted the term advocate doesn't really provide the prestige we're looking for, we are all advocates. 
>>>>> My impression of the discussion on IRC is that the email exchanges have been largely ignored and have not been part of the meeting discussion. I think it needs more thought  before we decide on the name. 
>>>>> Cheers, 
>>>>> Jeroen 
>>>>> 
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