[Marketing] FOSS4G-Europe 2017: OSGeoLive on USB stick

Tue Jun 6 14:55:46 PDT 2017

Hard to know; to act we would need a motion and we are still discussing
options.

Guido does foss4g have any plans to issue USB sticks?

Cameron are you advising us to print USB sticks; or are you just describing
their limitations so we are informed as to their appropriate use?
On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 11:39 AM Guido Stein <gstein at appgeo.com> wrote:

> So, does this mean anyone is makig a USB run or not?
>
> On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 8:18 PM Brian M Hamlin <maplabs at light42.com> wrote:
>
>> So - USB Sticks
>>
>>   TL;DR
>> I am hesitant to recommend building Boot USBs at this time..
>> It will take at least one test printing before committing to a run, if
>> and when we do.
>>
>> We can print USBs, probably a majority of people who receive them will be
>> able to boot a laptop,
>> others will need to use an ISO in Virtual Box or similar. FYI
>> -
>>   The USB Sticks format is not the same animal as the DVD was..
>> We made many DVDs and handed them out, over several versions.. the
>> process was reliable,
>> the options clear and the pricing competitive,,  We screen printed the
>> DVDs, bought commodity covers,
>> and the product could be built in a timely way by one of several vendors..
>>
>>   The USB Sticks are not the same..   We have not made many runs of them..
>>
>>   Technically, I am finding that there are at least two challenges..
>> One is the UEFI-Boot and signed kernel,
>> and that would be the same for a DVD format.. but the Second is .. that
>> many hardware platforms now seem
>> to be treating USB boot as a vector for attack.. The user may have to
>> choose at the BOOT BIOS level
>> to allow the booting, and even then it is not clear to me that all the
>> details on boot are being made public.
>> Low-cost windows laptops and also very expensive server motherboards
>> seem to both be behaving this way.
>>
>>   The Live has implemented a proces that should allow the UEFI-Boot
>> with a signed kernel to work.. but it is hard
>> to get right.. the DVD in later versions suffered from this also..
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 02 Jun 2017 18:31:42 0000, Guido Stein <gstein at appgeo.com> wrote:
>>
>> I believe that there is budget for the sticks in Boston, but I think
>> that is tied to the workshop folks only currently.
>> That all said, if you could price this out, I will figure out how to help.
>>
>> -Guido
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 5:03 PM Jody Garnett <jody.garnett at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> If we did a large "printing run" in north america for foss4g and foss4g
>> europe I could bring a batch to foss4g europe.
>>
>> --
>> Jody Garnett
>>
>> On 1 June 2017 at 13:58, Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I'm looping in the OSGeo-Live list.
>>
>> In particular, I suspect Brian Hamlin will have some valuable advice on
>> creating OSGeo-Live USBs as he has gone through this process a few
>> times.
>>
>> Brian might even be able to recommend a company to create the USBs for
>> you.
>>
>> Cheers, Cameron
>>
>> On 2/6/17 4:39 am, Fenoy Gerald wrote:
>>
>> Jody,
>> we shall be able to afford the empty USB Stick.
>>
>> Gérald Fenoy
>> gerald.fenoy at geolabs.fr
>> FOSS4G-Europe 2017 Conference Chair
>> https://europe.foss4g.org/2017/
>>
>> Le 1 juin 2017 à 20:41, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett at gmail.com> a écrit :
>>
>> Yeah that is like 1/2 our marketing budget for the year; and we are
>> going to have a lot of expenses ordering new booth stuff.
>>
>> Is there a chance the conference registration fee can cover USB stick
>> purchase?
>>
>> --
>> Jody Garnett
>>
>> On 1 June 2017 at 04:37, Fenoy Gerald <gerald.fenoy at geolabs.fr> wrote:
>> Dear Jody,
>> thanks a lot for your answer.
>>
>> I have contacted a french company that provide usb stick printing.
>> Their proposal is like this: for 300 USB sticks it will cost almost
>> 2000 € when for 400 the cost will go to 2600€.
>>
>> Nevertheless, I am now wondering. Indeed, from what I can remember,
>> during the FOSS4G in Bonn there was an OSGeo Booth that was providing
>> the OSGeoLiveDVD USB sticks. This may be the best option. Indeed, in
>> case OSGeo is coming to the FOSS4G-Europe with OSGeoLive USB sticks, it
>> means that we may be able to manage the usb print on our own budget as
>> it may cost less (as the usb stick size will decrease and the file to
>> put on the usb stick will be easier to setup, there is no double
>> partition anymore and so on, still I think that lower than 8go usb
>> stick won’t be a real use to anybody).
>>
>> I think that it would be just perfect if OSGeo can have a booth at the
>> FOSS4G-Europe 2017 for distributing the OSGeoLive USB stick.
>>
>> Gérald Fenoy
>> gerald.fenoy at geolabs.fr
>> FOSS4G-Europe 2017 Conference Chair
>> https://europe.foss4g.org/2017/
>>
>> Le 19 mai 2017 à 17:52, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett at gmail.com> a écrit :
>>
>> Gérald:
>>
>> To proceed we would need to get a better idea of costs involved. I know
>> you have a hard cap on attendees of 400 - how many sticks would you be
>> printing and do you have a quote we can work from?
>>
>> Are we sharing this cost with the LOC? OSGeo live is bootable so it
>> cannot really be used to easily give people a copy of the event program
>> (unless you make a partition I guess).
>>
>> I would like to considers USB sticks as part of our expense in
>> attending the event - while they are a good tool they are only one of
>> the tools available.
>> --
>> Jody
>>
>> On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 3:10 AM Fenoy Gerald <gerald.fenoy at geolabs.fr>
>> wrote:
>> Dear marketing committee,
>> I would like to know if it is possible for the FOSS4G-Europe 2017 LOC
>> to ask the OSGeo marketing committee for some fund to handle the USB
>> stick production to give to every attendees.
>>
>> The USB stick should contains OSGeoLive and the program associated with
>> the event. The USB Sticks will then be used during the workshops,
>> mainly for those that ask attendees to come with their own computer but
>> it may also be used in other workshops also.
>>
>> I hope to hear back from you.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Gérald Fenoy
>> gerald.fenoy at geolabs.fr
>> FOSS4G-Europe 2017 Conference Chair
>> https://europe.foss4g.org/2017/
>>
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