[OSGeo Oceania] [EXT] Re: OSGEO Oceania SIG Charters (OSM and QGIS)

Mon Dec 14 20:12:53 PST 2020

Sorry for the delayed response Andrew.

I agree with many of your suggestions. On reflection, I am in thorough
agreement that the OSM SIG should not claim to set the strategic direction
for OSM in the region, but instead play a supportive role. This is quite
vague though and I think we need to work out what it means specifically. As
you said, we can determine our own strategic goals and work towards them.
This is something members of the OSM SIG should do with community
consultation, keeping in mind that anyone in the community can join the SIG.

Overall, the OSM charter needs a lot of work and more community input. The
QGIS Charter
<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lrewntrC0N1r6mfZdo1AdPhe2qTEaN5hDA2pcL0mrvI/edit>
is further along and should provide good inspiration.
I'll send an email to the community now to encourage more feedback.

On Sun, 6 Dec 2020 at 22:04, Martin Tomko <tomkom at unimelb.edu.au> wrote:

> Well put, Andrew, this is in my eyes the right way to interpret this, I
> fully agree.
>
> Martin
>
>
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> *From: *Andrew Harvey <andrew.harvey4 at gmail.com>
> *Date: *Saturday, 5 December 2020 at 5:45 pm
> *To: *Edoardo Neerhut <eneerhut at hey.com>
> *Cc: *Martin Tomko <tomkom at unimelb.edu.au>, Alex Leith <
> alexgleith at gmail.com>, oceania at lists.osgeo.org <oceania at lists.osgeo.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [OSGeo Oceania] [EXT] Re: OSGEO Oceania SIG Charters (OSM
> and QGIS)
>
> *UoM notice: *External email. Be cautious of links, attachments, or
> impersonation attempts
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Thanks for putting this together Ed.
>
>
>
> In my opinion the SIG should not claim or strive to be some kind of
> overarching body for OSM in Oceania, rather it should sit alongside all
> other OSM parties including individual contributors and the wider
> community. Participation in the SIG should be optional for the OSM
> community and the SIG should not be an arbitrator for the community.
>
>
>
> So while the SIG can set it's own strategic directions and undertake
> activities to deliver on those goals, it shouldn't dictate that others in
> the community need to follow this.
>
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>
> Even if the SIG wanted to go further, it simply doesn't have any authority
> to, so I think this needs to be very clear in the scope.
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> I'll make a few more comments on the doc.
>
>
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> On Thu, 26 Nov 2020 at 17:11, Edoardo Neerhut <eneerhut at hey.com> wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> I have put together a charter
> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RzMq3p4VAENBkvl1pWIXom4oP6A_j_5EqI7DB_4n0xA/edit#heading=h.8miip2ytol17>
> for the OpenStreetMap SIG. I have been referring to it as the OpenStreetMap
> Working Group (OSM WG), but perhaps these terms are interchangeable.
>
> The charter is fairly straight forward and hopefully captures the
> discussions that we as a community had in July & August. I invite others to
> contribute, keeping in mind the obligations the OSM WG would have as a
> Special Interest Group. These obligations have been outlined by the board
> here.
> <https://drive.google.com/file/d/1U3R3wSHR9jo9VgywmAQqKswrylwjxw9-/view>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ed
>
> On November 25, 2020, Edoardo Neerhut <eneerhut at hey.com> wrote:
>
> Excellent. Thanks Martin & Alex.
>
> On November 24, 2020, Alex Leith <alexgleith at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Yeah, I have edit rights... I can do it a bit later today.
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>
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> On Mon, 23 Nov 2020 at 13:31, Martin Tomko <tomkom at unimelb.edu.au> wrote:
>
> Edoardo,
>
> It is here ( in the public, shared OSGEO Oceania folders).
>
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1U3R3wSHR9jo9VgywmAQqKswrylwjxw9-/view?usp=sharing
>
>
>
> We could put it to the wiki – Alex, do you have edit rights?
>
> Martin
>
>
>
> *From: *Edoardo Neerhut <eneerhut at hey.com>
> *Date: *Monday, 23 November 2020 at 1:24 pm
> *To: *Andrew Harvey <andrew.harvey4 at gmail.com>, Alex Leith <
> alexgleith at gmail.com>
> *Cc: *oceania at lists.osgeo.org <oceania at lists.osgeo.org>, Martin Tomko <
> tomkom at unimelb.edu.au>
> *Subject: *Re: [OSGeo Oceania] [EXT] Re: OSGEO Oceania SIG Charters (OSM
> and QGIS)
>
> *UoM notice: *External email. Be cautious of links, attachments, or
> impersonation attempts
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Sure Alex, this is something we can put together.
>
> Can someone please link me to the latest version of the SIG guidelines?
> Perhaps it could be added to the OSGeo Oceania wiki
> <https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Oceania> as well. The one I am looking at is
> from August.
>
> On November 23, 2020, Alex Leith <alexgleith at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hey Ed and Andrew
>
> Since we have the OSM agreement all signed and sorted, do you think we can
> move forward with making OSM a formal special interest group of OSGeo
> Oceania?
>
> We just need to develop a brief charter between us and it's done!
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> On Mon, 23 Nov 2020 at 10:56, Martin Tomko <tomkom at unimelb.edu.au> wrote:
>
> Excellent, great to hear!
>
> Martin
>
>
>
> *From: *Andrew Jeffrey <aljeffrey83 at gmail.com>
> *Date: *Monday, 23 November 2020 at 10:53 am
> *To: *Martin Tomko <tomkom at unimelb.edu.au>
> *Cc: *oceania at lists.osgeo.org <oceania at lists.osgeo.org>,
> nyall.dawson at gmail.com <nyall.dawson at gmail.com>, Edoardo Neerhut <
> eneerhut at gmail.com>, Madmanwoo at gmail.com <Madmanwoo at gmail.com>
> *Subject: *[EXT] Re: OSGEO Oceania SIG Charters (OSM and QGIS)
>
> *UoM notice: *External email. Be cautious of links, attachments, or
> impersonation attempts
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Hi Martin,
>
>
>
> The QGIS one is in a position where it can be put out for comment.
>
>
>
> I didn't want to float it in the lead up to the conference in case it got
> lost among the conference talk.
>
>
>
> I'll post something on the OO list this week regarding that the charter is
> open for community input.
>
>
>
> Andrew
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 10:49 AM Martin Tomko <tomkom at unimelb.edu.au>
> wrote:
>
> Dear SIG proposers ( and the community at large),
>
> I am just following on this email from about a month ago, to nudge/check
> on activity with respect to the constitution of SIGs.
>
>
>
> The guidelines are ready for your charters. Please, do not hesitate to ask
> for more inputs/questions if there are any. It would be good to see the
> momentum not abate on these.
>
>
>
> Martin, on behalf of the OSGEO Oceania board
>
>
>
> *From: *Oceania <oceania-bounces at lists.osgeo.org>
> *Date: *Friday, 30 October 2020 at 5:15 pm
> *To: *oceania at lists.osgeo.org <oceania at lists.osgeo.org>
> *Cc: *nyall.dawson at gmail.com <nyall.dawson at gmail.com>, Edoardo Neerhut <
> eneerhut at gmail.com>, aljeffrey83 at gmail.com <aljeffrey83 at gmail.com>,
> Madmanwoo at gmail.com <Madmanwoo at gmail.com>
> *Subject: *[OSGeo Oceania] OSGEO Oceania SIG Charters (OSM and QGIS)
>
> Dear QGIS and OSM SIG proposers, and any other community members that are
> interested to establish a SIG.
>
>
>
> The OSGEO Oceania Board has approved the SIG guidelines, circulated on
> this list previously for public consultation. This means that OO is now
> ready to consider the SIG charters and finalise the formation of (at least)
> the first 2 sigs that have been discussed.
>
>
>
> I would like to encourage you to finalise the draft charters and any other
> documentation you would like to attach, and send it for approval to the
> board. It would be great to get these SIG operational.
>
>
>
> There is no particular timeline, but we are all keen to not lose momentum.
>
> It may be good to circulate these Charters on the oceania list too, for
> comments.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Martin
>
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