[Live-demo] Ideas/inputs for having a cloud service that runs the OSGeo-Live VM

Cameron Shorter cameron.shorter at gmail.com
Sun Oct 18 03:32:00 PDT 2015

Bringing a few different email threads back to one, and answering 
Suchith's "next steps" question:

On 16/10/2015 12:43 am, Suchith Anand wrote:
> Cameron - from your experiences with OSGeo live community, what do you think is the best way now forward ? Can you please summarise all discussions so far and reply to the public lists.Thanks.
> Suchith
If we are to be successful at setting up an OSGeo-Live sustainable cloud 
service, I suggest we consider:

1. Would a cloud service be used? By who?
I'd suggest that people who want a cloud service speak up, say how you 
would use an OSGeo-Live cloud service. We are looking here to determine 
if there is a sustaining community who will step up to keep the project 
maintained with each OSGeo-Live release.

2. What are the steps technically required to set up the cloud service? 
Hopefully someone will step up to do the research on what is required, 
and will set up a Proof-of-Concept.

3. What will hosting a cloud service cost? Would it be a pay-as-you-use 
model? Would we be asking the OSGeo Foundation to sponsor? Would we be 
asking workshop providers to pay for the service?
I suspect that we could ask the OSGeo Foundation for base funding to 
prove a Proof of Concept (by paying for a cloud service for 1 year or 
so), but ask workshop providers and other users to pay for the service 
in moving forward.
This is something that can be decided once costs are understood.

4. But the bottom line is that the best chance of success will occur if 
someone stands up and champions its development.  Do we have someone 
interested to do the hard work of making it happen? (Speak up if 
interested). It certainly would be a valuable contribution to the OSGeo 

Warm regards, Cameron

On 14/10/2015 7:59 pm, Peter Baumann wrote:
>> >  1.Do you think it is important to have a cloud service that runs the OSGeo-Live VM
> not necessarily a cloud, as the whole OSGeo Live is not prepared.
> But definitely hosting it on a VM (for easy cloning + move) is an asset - any
> demo just needs to show a URL then.
>> >
>> >  2.What are the steps that we need to take to make this possible
> find a caretaker with a machine.
> Jacobs University can do that, for example, in tight collaboration with Angelos
> on technical level.
> -Peter

On 15/10/2015 2:53 am, Giuseppe Amatulli wrote:
> Hi,
> under the http://www.spatial-ecology.net/ initiative we  use the the 
> OSGeo-Llive for courses and intensive training in Geo Computation.
> In this line we have been used also Amazon Web Service to teach remote 
> connection and scripting routines in the cloud. For this I was 
> customize a Ubuntu Instance very similar to the  OSGeo-Llive.
> Nonetheless, would be grate  to have the OSGeo-Llive directly hosted 
> in AWS to allow teach but also to provide to the course participants  
> something that they can use after the course.
> The AWS Educate <https://aws.amazon.com/education/awseducate/> provide 
> grants for education so maybe an official cooperation OSGeo&AWS can be 
> a solution to host for free a OSGeo-Llive Instance
> Best Regards
> Giuseppe

> On 10/13/2015 05:57 PM, Suchith Anand wrote:
>> >Hi all,
>> >
>> >
>> >Myself, Maria and Peter are now at ESA event and had a chance to catch up on ideas for future to expand education globally.
>> >
>> >
>> >I also remembered that few months back, we had an initial discussion on  the importance of having a cloud service that runs the OSGeo-Live VM to help running workshops at conferences, training events etc. Venka made this idea in one of the Geo4All AB discussions on workshops at FOSS4G Bonn that i copy below
>> >
>> >
>> >"Instead of buying 80-100 computers, it could be a worth considering to pay for a cloud service that runs the OSGeo-Live VM. Maybe one of our sponsoring companies could be approached to deploy such OSGeo Software as a Service solution.Such service could be made available to any event/institution wishing to run their own workshops anywhere place on earth with a good internet connection and thin client. For subsequent events or users could be charged to  cover cost of cloud hosting and paying for some developers to maintain the system.If the experiment is successful, we can think of replicating it in our globally through our local chapters."
>> >
>> >
>> >Me, Maria and Peter in our discussions today, thought it is good time to start doing something about this and have this for scaling up our education and training needs globally. So it will be good to get ideas from key people, so i request you all to give your thoughts/ideas.
>> >
>> >
>> >1.Do you think it is important to have a cloud service that runs the OSGeo-Live VM.
>> >
>> >2.What are the steps that we need to take to make this possible
>> >
>> >Looking forward to your inputs.
>> >
>> >Suchith
>> >
>> >

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