[Live-demo] OSGeo-Live 11.0 - should kosmo continue to be included?

Wed Jun 7 13:06:24 PDT 2017

Hi Sergio,

Further to Angelos' email.

As I understand it, Kosmo is one of a number of forks of the Jump 
codebase? Are there opportunities to combine the projects back together 
again, and then benefit from combined communities and combine marketing?

Maybe handle differences by using a plugin concept (which is the 
approach used by QGIS)?

Warm regards, Cameron

On 8/6/17 3:40 am, Angelos Tzotsos wrote:
> Hi Sergio,
>
> Thank you for updating the metrics page and for your contribution of 
> Kosmo to the OSGeo-Live.
>
> I went through the links provided in the metrics page and I landed in 
> Kosmo's home page.
> I realized that we have been promoting Kosmo v3.1 through OSGeo-Live 
> for some releases now, but actually this version was never released on 
> your page. This is not a good open source practice, and reflects bad 
> to both projects.
>
> You mentioned a 3.2 release coming soon, I hope to see that version 
> officially released so we can consider adding Kosmo back to OSGeo-Live.
>
> Regards,
> Angelos
>
>
> On 06/06/2017 11:37 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote:
>> I'm looping the osgeo-live email list into this conversation, to open 
>> up the opportunity to comment.
>>
>> Cameron
>>
>>
>> On 6/6/17 11:15 pm, Sergio Baños Calvo wrote:
>>> Hi Cameron.
>>>
>>> Here it's the OpenHub metrics for Kosmo Desktop (sorry for the 
>>> delay, i had some problems to get them up to date):
>>>
>>> https://www.openhub.net/p/kosmo_desktop
>>>
>>> Feel free to check and let me know if it's worth to let Kosmo 
>>> Desktop form part of the OSGeo-LiveDVD.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> El 31/05/2017 a las 21:49, Cameron Shorter escribió:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks Sergio for looking into this.
>>>>
>>>> We are open to being convinced that kosmo is still a project that 
>>>> should be on OSGeo-Live.
>>>>
>>>> Warm regards, Cameron
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 31/5/17 6:29 pm, Sergio Baños Calvo wrote:
>>>>> Good morning Cameron.
>>>>>
>>>>> Those are bad news :(...
>>>>>
>>>>>> * There is no version change of Kosmo for a number of releases.
>>>>> We haven't increased the Kosmo Desktop number version due to 
>>>>> internal reasons. The next OsGeo-LiveDVD would include the new 3.2 
>>>>> version.
>>>>>
>>>>>> * We don't have any OpenHub metrics for Kosmo to check community 
>>>>>> activity
>>>>> I'm taking care of this, I'll warn you as soon as the openhub 
>>>>> metrics are all completed so you can check the activity and could 
>>>>> change the opinion about the project.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> El 27/05/2017 a las 21:50, Cameron Shorter escribió:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Sergio,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We have identified Kosmo as a candidate for retiring from 
>>>>>> OSGeo-Live. The reasons for considering this are:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * There is no version change of Kosmo for a number of releases.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * We don't have any OpenHub metrics for Kosmo to check community 
>>>>>> activity
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So the question we ask is "Should we recommend new users adopt 
>>>>>> Kosmo over equivalent Open Source GIS alternatives?"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A good way to demonstrate that is by demonstrating an active 
>>>>>> community.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on this?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Feel free to CC the OSGeo-Live list with your response if you like.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Warm regards, Cameron
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 15/5/17 4:27 pm, Sergio Baños Calvo wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Astrid,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll check and prepare the latest one to be added to the new 
>>>>>>> version of OSGeo-Live.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Project Overview and Quickstart will be valid for the new 
>>>>>>> one, but I'll check and add the newest functionalities (and some 
>>>>>>> use cases) to both of them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> El 09/05/2017 a las 21:09, astroidex at gmail.com escribió:
>>>>>>>> Hi Sergio,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> we have started our build cycle for OSGeo-Live 11.0, due to be 
>>>>>>>> released at the end of July 2017, in time for FOSS4G 2017 in 
>>>>>>>> August.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We are interested to know which version of kosmo should be 
>>>>>>>> installed on OSGeo-Live 11.0?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Version 3.1 was installed on OSGeo-Live 10.5.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Note that our installer feature freeze is 5. June 2017!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please give us feedback and get involved or provide a different 
>>>>>>>> person as contact person, which will update your project.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We are asking all OSGeo-Live projects to let us know:
>>>>>>>> 1. What versions of projects should be on OSGeo-Live?
>>>>>>>> 2. Are there any new projects which should be on OSGeo-Live?
>>>>>>>> 3. Are there any projects which should be dropped from OSGeo-Live?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Do you think we should drop kosmo from OSGeo-Live?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As per last announcement [1], with our next OSGeo-Live release 
>>>>>>>> we intend to focus on quality, and as such will be asking each 
>>>>>>>> project:
>>>>>>>> 1. To help install the latest stable version of the software.
>>>>>>>> 2. To verify Project Overview and Quickstarts are both up to 
>>>>>>>> date and in line with our documentation standards.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You can see results of our first pass review in our status 
>>>>>>>> spreadsheet [2], column T "11.0 comment", and column U "10.0 
>>>>>>>> Doc Review".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [1] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc_Press_Release_75
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [2] 
>>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Q5BaEgQtgw4O1bXyeWMlM8XtAOhUgcjZ7Y2O0FZc2H0/edit?hl=en_GB#gid=2014800150
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Key Milestones
>>>>>>>> -------------------
>>>>>>>>  15-May-2017 Decide versions of applications to be installed on 
>>>>>>>> OSGeo-Live
>>>>>>>>  22-May-2017 Draft installers for new applications complete
>>>>>>>>   5-Jun-2017   OSGeo-Live Feature Freeze (final application 
>>>>>>>> versions installed)
>>>>>>>>  19-Jun-2017  OSGeo-Live delivered to UAT (final application 
>>>>>>>> versions installed - Beta stage)
>>>>>>>>  24-Jul-2017   OSGeo-Live Final ISO
>>>>>>>>  14-Aug-2017 FOSS4G 2017 Boston
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ... full schedule 
>>>>>>>> http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Al9zh8DjmU_RdE1SYUN3YWJ2N1NpSUczbW9IRWZNclE&hl=en_GB
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We are waiting for your response concerning your project kosmo. 
>>>>>>>> Any questions, please ask via the OSGeo-Live mailing list 
>>>>>>>> (live-demo at lists.osgeo.org) or directly.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Warm regards,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Astrid
>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>> Astrid Emde
>>>>>>>> Charter Member
>>>>>>>> Open Source Geospatial Foundation
>>>>>>>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/User:Astrid_Emde
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sergio Baños Calvo
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jefe de desarrollos / Development chief
>>>>>>> Sistemas Abiertos de Información Geográfica,S.L. (SAIG S.L.)
>>>>>>> Tlfno. móvil / Mobile phone: (+34) 685005960
>>>>>>> Tlfno. fijo / Office phone: (+34) 954788876
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> E-mail: sbc at saig.es
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> Cameron Shorter
>>>>>> M +61 419 142 254
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -- 
>>>>>
>>>>> Sergio Baños Calvo
>>>>>
>>>>> Jefe de desarrollos / Development chief
>>>>> Sistemas Abiertos de Información Geográfica,S.L. (SAIG S.L.)
>>>>> Tlfno. móvil / Mobile phone: (+34) 685005960
>>>>> Tlfno. fijo / Office phone: (+34) 954788876
>>>>>
>>>>> E-mail: sbc at saig.es
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Cameron Shorter
>>>> M +61 419 142 254
>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>>
>>> Sergio Baños Calvo
>>>
>>> Jefe de desarrollos / Development chief
>>> Sistemas Abiertos de Información Geográfica,S.L. (SAIG S.L.)
>>> Tlfno. móvil / Mobile phone: (+34) 685005960
>>> Tlfno. fijo / Office phone: (+34) 954788876
>>>
>>> E-mail: sbc at saig.es
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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> -- 
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