[OSGeoLive] machine translations

Cameron Shorter cameron.shorter at gmail.com
Thu Aug 2 17:21:11 PDT 2018 

-0 for "Thanks" for this release from me because I don't think we have 
time to define our guidelines for what should be included, and I 
wouldn't want to add thanks for a project and then take it away.


On 1/08/2018 10:51 AM, Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote:
> +0 for a "Thanks" section. I have no objection, but do we need to 
> thank Ubuntu? Debian? The Linux and Apache Foundations? Their 
> contributors? Do we have a rule of thumb for who we thank?
>
> Kind regards,
> Ben.
>
> On 31/07/18 16:39, Nicolas Roelandt wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> If sponsor has a too strong meaning, we can add a "Thanks" or "Special
>> Thanks" section into the sponsor page (I'm not in favour of a another 
>> page).
>>
>> So we can also thanks Transifex and Github that let's us use their
>> infrastructure for doing OpenSource stuff.
>>
>> so here is my proposal and my vote
>>
>> +1 for thanks section.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Nicolas
>>
>>
>> 2018-07-30 23:47 GMT+02:00 Angelos Tzotsos <gcpp.kalxas at gmail.com>:
>>
>>> It looks like we did not have a resolution to this issue yet, shall we
>>> vote on this?
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 1:55 AM, Cameron Shorter <
>>> cameron.shorter at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> When it comes to giving credit, I think there are a number of 
>>>> factors to
>>>> consider:
>>>> * What is the cost to us in maintaining a current list of 
>>>> supporters long
>>>> term? The supporter list is only valuable if it is known to be kept 
>>>> up to
>>>> date.
>>>> * What value do we gain by recognising the supporters? Eg: Saying that
>>>> hundreds of people have contributed to OSGeoLive is a level of 
>>>> endorsement
>>>> which has marketing value.
>>>> * What value do we provide to the supporters we mention? Mentioning an
>>>> individual developer or a small geospatial company would provide 
>>>> marketing
>>>> value whereas mentioning Google Translate would likely have much less
>>>> proportional value. Lets not waste our time maintaining a supporter 
>>>> list if
>>>> the supporters don't appreciate the service we provide.
>>>> * What contribution is worthy of mention? If we make everyone special,
>>>> then no one is special. We run the risk of weakening the value of our
>>>> endorsement by endorsing everyone who asks for it. (Same goes for 
>>>> which
>>>> projects we accept into OSGeoLive). The hardest part is working out 
>>>> how to
>>>> say "No" nicely.  It is best to have clear criteria which can be 
>>>> referenced.
>>>>
>>>> At the moment, I don't think Leopark fits into the criteria we have
>>>> applied to existing OSGeoLive sponsors. (Roughly, organisations 
>>>> which have
>>>> are providing developer time and/or resources for core OSGeoLive
>>>> activities). We haven't written this criteria down or talked about 
>>>> it much.
>>>>
>>>> We might want to create a criteria for "Supporters", as Jeff suggests.
>>>> But I see this a long term activity as it will take some 
>>>> discussion, and
>>>> then inviting groups to be included, then adding then ....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 27 July 2018 at 03:22, Vicky Vergara <vicky at georepublic.de> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> ​Hi Cameron:
>>>>>
>>>>> ​
>>>>> ​I think,​
>>>>>   if a company, no matter which company, lets us use some of the
>>>>> resources, in this case their Azure account, lets give them credit 
>>>>> for
>>>>> doing so.​
>>>>>
>>>>> I added you to the Spanish translation group
>>>>> Please evaluate:
>>>>> https://www.transifex.com/osgeo/osgeolive/translate/#es/quic
>>>>> kstart--ideditor_quickstart/124084168
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Up to this line the decision should be made.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would like to say *trust* on what OSGeoLive PSC members ask.
>>>>>
>>>>> ​Regards
>>>>> Vicky​
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 5:30 AM, Cameron Shorter <
>>>>> cameron.shorter at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Vicky, I would like some background information before forming my
>>>>>> opinion on this proposal.
>>>>>> If we are to give leopark special mention, how does it stand out 
>>>>>> when
>>>>>> compared to other projects. Eg: If someone uses Google Translate, 
>>>>>> should we
>>>>>> also mention Google Translate?
>>>>>> What does Leopark gain by being mentioned? Have they requested to be
>>>>>> mentioned?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 25 July 2018 at 01:45, Nicolas Roelandt <roelandtn.pro at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi thanks Vicky,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I do use it too when no pre-existing translation is not 
>>>>>>> available and
>>>>>>> I don't know the project.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nicolas
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Le lun. 23 juil. 2018 à 23:31, Vicky Vergara 
>>>>>>> <vicky at georepublic.de> a
>>>>>>> écrit :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>> Since osgeolive has been in transifex, leopark let us use the
>>>>>>>> "translation code" to do machine translations, I would like to 
>>>>>>>> add it as
>>>>>>>> sponsor (could be a sponsor on the translations section of 
>>>>>>>> sponsors).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Who does not use it:
>>>>>>>> English speaking only people, don't use it. because there is no 
>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>> to translate.
>>>>>>>> Languages that maybe were mostly translated, and every time the 
>>>>>>>> file
>>>>>>>> changed, they retranslated, and just copied/pasted old 
>>>>>>>> translation, might
>>>>>>>> have not used it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  From who I know that use it (for spanish):
>>>>>>>> The students from the ENAH (archeology students) use it (so says
>>>>>>>> MarPetra <https://www.transifex.com/user/profile/MarPetra/>)
>>>>>>>> specially because they don't know the terminology used on the 
>>>>>>>> software.
>>>>>>>> I do use it, (as Spanish translation was incomplete, and not up to
>>>>>>>> date).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please comment
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Vicky
>>>>>>>>
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