[pdal] PDAL install

Fri Apr 24 14:18:52 PDT 2020

Hi Samantha

It reads a lot like you’re trying to drive PDAL via a point-and-click
interface (GRASS/ArcGIS/??)?

it might be worth stepping back and re-thinking your workflow to include
some command line / python coding operations where things involve PDAL
(this is my approach)

A bunch of folks (myself included) also offer consulting services to deal
exactly with helping people through time-critical point cloud problems. My
side is workflow development / data interrogation / interpretation; others
specialise in programming and actually building integrations like desktop
GIS support.

While the software is free, these parts require funding.

Regards,

Adam

On Sat, 25 Apr 2020 at 02:43, Samantha Lee <slee63 at ncsu.edu> wrote:

> I want to roll back what I said in my latest email because Howard pointed
> out something I read but it didn't sink in.
> There is a conda installed in ArcGIS. I don't have to uninstall and
> reinstall a couple softwares.
> I have a question though, since both Howard and Adam recommend using a
> virtual environment. Since the conda is under ArcGIS, the myenv will be
> created under the ArcGIS umbrella, no? I read PDAL write up on this
> https://pdal.io/quickstart.html#install-conda
>
> Is this the way to go?
> Thanks, there is a silver lining in this afterall.
>
> Samanthja
>
> On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 9:32 AM Howard Butler <howard at hobu.co> wrote:
>
>> A few additional points:
>>
>> * If you don't need Anaconda, use the Miniconda installer.
>> * ArcGIS has a Conda environment that can be used
>> * Adam's advice is spot-on. Create new environments for different
>> activities or projects and don't use pip unless you have to.
>>
>> If PDAL can only be installed with conda, and there's no alternative,
>> then I will uninstall Python3.8 and try conda all over again.
>>
>>
>> There are plenty of alternatives, it's just that they're all likely to be
>> much harder than installing and using PDAL via Conda, especially on Windows.
>>
>>
>> On Apr 24, 2020, at 8:18 AM, Michael Smith <michael.smith.erdc at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Samantha,
>>
>> Conda is just one method. But you can install pdal under python 3.8 on
>> conda
>>
>>
>> conda create –name pdal3.8
>>
>> conda config --add channels conda-forge
>> conda install python=3.8 pdal -y
>>
>>
>>
>> Each conda environment is separate so you can have python3.7 or 3.8 or
>> whatever environment.
>>
>>
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Michael Smith
>> US Army Corps of Engineers
>> Remote Sensing/GIS Center
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *pdal <pdal-bounces at lists.osgeo.org> on behalf of Samantha Lee <
>> slee63 at ncsu.edu>
>> *Date: *Friday, April 24, 2020 at 8:54 AM
>> *To: *adam steer <adam.d.steer at gmail.com>
>> *Cc: *pdal <pdal at lists.osgeo.org>
>> *Subject: *Re: [pdal] PDAL install
>>
>> Yes, it is there. One can use it, it processes but Python is not updated.
>> If you check the github or overstack on conda and Python 3.8.2, there are
>> others with issues as well.
>> If PDAL can only be installed with conda, and there's no alternative,
>> then I will uninstall Python3.8 and try conda all over again.
>> It's just that I'm in a time crunch for my project and I'm really trying
>> to get these installs issues over with.
>> Thanks for hearing me out.
>>
>> Samantha
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 6:26 AM adam steer <adam.d.steer at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Samantha
>>
>> …it seems odd that there would be issues with py3.8.2 and conda. It’s
>> there as a package: https://anaconda.org/anaconda/python
>>
>> Using virtual environments is really key to managing python on machines
>> you want to do more than one thing with (for example your laptop/desktop
>> machine).
>>
>> If you’re in a conda virtual environment, try really hard to avoid using
>> pip.
>>
>> There’s a few extra words about PDAL installation with conda here:
>> https://pdal.io/workshop/conda.html#
>> <https://pdal.io/workshop/conda.html#what-is-conda>
>>
>> Hope that helps,
>>
>> Adam
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 24 Apr 2020 at 19:25, Samantha Lee <slee63 at ncsu.edu> wrote:
>>
>> I am new to this.
>> I have a project where I need to use PDAL.
>> However, PDAL website states that the only way to install PDAL in Windows
>> is through Conda. I have Python 3.8.2 installed without using Anaconda. I
>> can't install conda using pip install and I don't want to use Anaconda as
>> it doesn't come with Python 3.8 and upgrading to that version using conda
>> has issues.
>> I cannot install PDAL using pip install either.
>> I am using Windows 10 and am wondering if there are other ways to resolve
>> the install?
>>
>> Thanks in advance for your help.
>>
>> Samantha
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