[postgis-devel] PSC Vote: Github move from travis-ci.org to travis-ci.com - big mess now sorry

[Phillip Ross]

Thanks for the extra details everyone.

The original call for a PSC vote that started this thread was whether
or not the PostGIS project should move from the travis-ci.org to their
.com site.  The reason I said it was now a moot point is because all
the messaging from travis is that travis-ci.com is the future for both
opensource and non-opensource, and during the course of 2020 we've
seen .org usage becoming slower and slower.  Regina called the vote,
and there was some discussion on the thread among the PSC members, but
unless I missed it, there was never a follow-up formal vote and the
thread kind of died.  Regina and I did try to work to get the
docker-postgis repo in the postgis organization on github working with
travis-ci.com, but we weren't able to get it to work.  Regina ran out
of time to dedicate to it, and I don't have privilege levels that
allow me to attempt to fix the travis-ci.com integration, so I was
just sending a message to this list to attempt to revive the thread
and try to push the process forward.

I'll try to ping PSC members directly and see if I can hopefully get
some traction under this.

Thanks!
- Phillip

On Fri, Nov 27, 2020 at 11:55 AM Howard Butler <howard at hobu.co> wrote:
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> On Nov 26, 2020, at 5:00 AM, Jeff McKenna <jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com> wrote:
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> On 2020-11-25 8:55 p.m., Phillip Ross wrote:
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> Hello all,
> I wanted to follow-up on this discussion to say that recent pricing
> changes and such have rendered the travis .org/.com stuff moot, as the
> whole offering is no longer free as it once was.
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> A short update: yesterday Travis released a new announcement (https://blog.travis-ci.com/oss-announcement) of "Open source accounts, as always, will be completely free under travis-ci.com"
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> our recent changes have brought the abuse of open source at Travis CI under control
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> That statement is baloney, and Travis has been sliding toward this thing since Idera bought them almost two years ago. The pricing structure and limits make it untenable for a significant open source project like PostGIS, GDAL, or PROJ to operate effectively on Travis without paying a lot more money than previously. That's their choice to make, and open source projects always operated there with the understanding we were guests. Unfortunately they also tossed off projects that were paying with their price increase. PROJ and GDAL got a price quote that was ~3x for the same level of service it was previously paying.
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> We’re also partnering with leaders in the open source world like AWS, IBM and Arm
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> Leaders in the open source world are organizations that *make* and release open source software. The track record of their partners in that regard are rather suspect.
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> On to the next one. For now that's Github Actions.
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> Howard
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