[Qgis-developer] CyberTracker integration

Mon Jul 8 08:14:13 PDT 2013

Hi Antonio,

One area of difference with CyberTracker is that it captures data as
name+value pairs. Converting to shape file attributes therefore tends to be
lossy. Alternatively, one data set point might be able to populate several
shape file attributes. I’m not sure how to deal with this yet, but my
thinking is that we would go simple and fully automatic first. The
integration involves converting a shape to a data model, sending the data
model to CyberTracker and managing the return of the data.

For the purposes of analysis, I’m thinking that any feature that
CyberTracker has that is not in QGIS yet, would be built in parallel over
time. We have relatively simple charts (like effort, distance travelled,
etc), but also something called Index of Abundance which would be nice to
have open (if it’s not already there).

Cheers,

-Justin

From: Antonio Locandro [mailto:antoniolocandro at hotmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, July 7, 2013 9:13 PM
To: Justin Steventon
Cc: qgis-developer at lists.osgeo.org
Subject: RE: [Qgis-developer] CyberTracker integration

Thats understandable the differences, now Justin can you specify more about
how would you like to make the integration

I am thinking you would probably want to do the data collection using
CyberTracker, then export it or download it to be used within QGIS. Now what
is it that you would want to do with the data inside QGIS? Depending on your
goals you may want to create a plugin that would take the data and do
certain predefined analysis

Regards
Antonio Locandro

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From: justin at steventon.com
To: antoniolocandro at hotmail.com; madmanwoo at gmail.com
CC: qgis-developer at lists.osgeo.org
Subject: RE: [Qgis-developer] CyberTracker integration
Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2013 13:47:37 -0700

Hi Antonio,

Yes, similar to Fulcrum.

I’ve been following them for a while now and think they are doing a lot of
things right. They’re missing a few components that are important for us,
e.g. full offline (for security) and support for a number of in-field
scenarios. It’s possible these features will be created over time. The
proprietary nature of Fulcrum would tend to turn off some potential groups
in the same way as it occasionally has for us. 

So far, we have not seen meaningful support for low literate users in any
major product. As more and more folks have smart phones, this may pick up. 

Cheers,

-Justin

From: Antonio Locandro [mailto:antoniolocandro at hotmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, July 7, 2013 8:54 AM
To: Justin Steventon; 'Nathan Woodrow'
Cc: qgis-developer at lists.osgeo.org
Subject: RE: [Qgis-developer] CyberTracker integration

Hi Justin

I think your project seems a little bit similar to http://fulcrumapp.com/
http://fulcrumapp.com/features/  for field data collection, maybe just
missing the part for people who can read or write

What they do is capture data using custom forms on the field and then you
sync over the internet on the cloud, once on a computer you can export the
data to use with GIS software and create PDF reports

Probably a similar approach? 

Antonio Locandro

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From: justin at steventon.com
To: madmanwoo at gmail.com
Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2013 23:07:25 -0700
CC: qgis-developer at lists.osgeo.org
Subject: Re: [Qgis-developer] CyberTracker integration

That’s true, I missed the concept of a form in the description on the site. 

My interest is in a rich, user friendly data capture experience, especially
for cases where the field user is not a QGIS user and may not be able to
read or write. Our studies indicate that this is also a more efficient way
to capture data for literate users. Over the years we’ve rolled our own
mini-GIS for the desktop, but the scalability of this approach is clearly
limited. Since we’re a non-profit and in the process of opening our code, it
makes sense to leverage an existing system. Of the solutions I have
investigated, QGIS seems most aligned at the technical level.

We do bring some interesting work to the table. Our client supports Windows
Mobile and Android and has a large library of customizable UI components
which can capture many different data types, including images and sound.
There is also support for timer tracks and a field map.

I’m pretty new to the Open Source community, so apologies if this is off.
I’m probably going about this all wrong.

Cheers,

-Justin

From: Nathan Woodrow [mailto:madmanwoo at gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, July 6, 2013 10:24 PM
To: Justin Steventon
Cc: qgis-developer at lists.osgeo.org
Subject: Re: [Qgis-developer] CyberTracker integration

My project isn't about putting QGIS onto PDA.  QGIS doesn't run on PDAs and
I doubt it ever will.

QMap is meant to be a field collection version of QGIS.

- Nathan

On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 3:13 PM, Justin Steventon <justin at steventon.com>
wrote:

Thanks Jürgen,

I see Nathan’s project is really about putting a stripped down version of
QGIS onto a PDA. Nevertheless, it’s impressive.

CyberTracker is designed more as a data capture conduit – highly
customizable UI (via XML) that can be used even by low-literate folks.
Integration with QGIS would be great.

If anyone is interested in a collaboration, please let me know.

Cheers,

-Justin

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