[Qgis-developer] Release plans

Thu Jun 26 08:02:57 PDT 2014

I agree too for announcing when packages are ready.
Right today, during a course, I was answering a partecipant wh asked be
about the next release. I've told him it will happen in a few days and I
ansewered: "I hope they don't do as for QGIS 2.2, when we had to go back to
the website more and mroe times, hoping to see the QGIS 2.4 download link
appear"...

giovanni

2014-06-26 16:43 GMT+02:00 Andreas Neumann <a.neumann at carto.net>:

> Hi
>
> I have to agree with Nathan and Denis. It would me buch better to
> announce a release when the packages are ready. I remember that last
> time there was some confusion and disappointment by users reading tweets
> that QGIS was available and then they could not install it on their
> platform.
>
> Sorry Jürgen that we discuss this at the very latest. I was already
> happy that we got one week more time for testing/bug fixing.
>
> At least for the next release we should have packages ready before the
> announcement. Or only inform developers about the release and then the
> regular users when the packages are ready.
>
> Andreas
>
> PS: hope Jürgen does not hate me now for all my requests/ideas ...
>
> Am 26.06.2014 12:32, schrieb Nathan Woodrow:
> >>> No. Just like with 2.2.
> >
> > I think this is a real mistake and bad PR for the project.  If we want to
> > do it like this we need to refine out release plan better to have things
> > line up nice and smooth so people get what they expect.  The user isn't
> us,
> > we can build from source, they can not, nor should they.
> >
> > dev cylce -> freeze -> no new strings -> 3 days out (or something) freeze
> > all non package code incl strings -> call packages/update versions/update
> > site code etc -> (on day) push website and packages -> announcement.
> >
> > I suggest we need a calender on the website that shows using colors and
> > date ranges what is happening and when so no one gets a shock.
> >
> > Here is what the current release feels like to a normal user who is
> coming
> > from the outside:
> >
> > - Gets notified of the release (took about 10 seconds to go on twitter
> > after you sent the 2.2 email that it was "out" so it was not a hidden
> > thing, even on the weekend)
> > - Gets excited
> > - Heads to website
> > - "Ok banner still say 2.2 but there is a download link"
> > -  Click download.
> > - Run installer
> > - "oh 2.2. Didn't it say 2.4 was out?"
> > - *check back for later for you packages* "How long do I have to wait?"
> > - *........ please come again*
> > - (Never comes back) or is annoyed as heck
> > - *meanwhile*
> > - We push master forward, features flow in like normal.
> > - "Oh hi I found a major bug in 2.4 is there any planned patched release"
> > - "Meh"
> >
> > This is bad PR, even without the patched release thing, a release is a
> > binary release to a user. A source tarball means nothing.
> >
> > I remember having to respond to a heap of annoyed people on the QGIS
> > twitter/Facebook account with "we are currently building package, please
> > hold"
> >
> > - Nathan
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 9:58 PM, Jürgen E. <jef at norbit.de> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Nathan,
> >>
> >> On Thu, 26. Jun 2014 at 21:22:54 +1000, Nathan Woodrow wrote:
> >>> 1) Are we planning on having packages ready to go before the official
> >>> announcement?
> >>
> >> No. Just like with 2.2.
> >>
> >>
> >>> 2) Is the website going to be updated before/just after the
> announcement
> >> to
> >>>    point to the packages?
> >>
> >> When the package arrive the website is going to be updated.  Where
> >> necessary,
> >> not all links have an explicit version number in them.  And we should
> >> probably
> >> also get rid of those that do - so we don't need to change that just
> >> because
> >> the current release version number changed.
> >>
> >>
> >>> 3) Are we holding the feature freeze for a month/two weeks after
> release
> >> in
> >>>    case something comes up that is a real hurt point to hold off on?
> >>
> >> No.  Once the release is branched and tagged, master is open for new
> >> features
> >> again.  Just like with 2.2.   Fixes can be applied to the release
> branch -
> >> although there still isn't an official plan if/when/how such updates
> would
> >> end
> >> up in packages.
> >>
> >>
> >>> If 2.4 "release" on the 27 is going to be just a email to call for
> >> packages,
> >>> could it be just labeled as such, don't use the words "Release", or
> >> "QGIS 2.4
> >>> is out" because it will go everywhere raising the issues in 1).
> >>
> >> No, just like with 2.2
> >>
> >> http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/qgis-user/2014-February/026281.html
> >>
> >> and as on the roadmap:
> >>
> >> http://qgis.org/en/site/getinvolved/development/index.html#road-map
> >>
> >>
> >> Jürgen
> >>
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