[Qgis-developer] [Qgis-tr] size of translations, use a distinct repo?

Sun Nov 2 23:32:01 PST 2014

Hi again,

Thanks again for you work Werner.

Last translation commit is quite large again, due to the Spanish file, 
although from a quick look it just seems to be new translations...

Anyway, I'd like to raise again the idea of using git submodule for 
translation files.

As written before, I think they are quite useless in the main repo. Even 
if we can limit drastically the growth of the files, I think they would 
be better suited in a distinct repo and have a small advantage regarding 
growth of the main repo.

I found a project [0] which is using github / transifex with git 
submodule for translation files [1].

I believe no changes to current translation scripts would be required 
thanks to git submodules.
It would just be a question of initialising the submodule and changing 
the url wherever needed.

Does this need a QEP ? ;)

Best wishes,

Denis

[0] 
http://www.ushahidi.com/2012/08/21/localization-and-translation-with-transifex/
[1] https://github.com/ushahidi/Ushahidi_Web/tree/develop/application

On 30.10.2014 17:12, Werner Macho wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I am sorry for not realizing that :(
> But from now on it should be much better ..
> Other thing is that I think about only updating all translations in
> source only every two weeks (or probably only in front of a release)
> as the translation should be done in transifex anyway. And only
> updating the english source in transifex (and master of course).
> Pros: even smaller and less commits,
> Cons: Some translators often like to see "how it looks like" and I
> understand that from time to time you want to see if "it fits".
>
> What do you think about that?
>
> regards
> Werner
>
> On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 4:28 PM, Denis Rouzaud <denis.rouzaud at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Werner,
>>
>> Thanks for this, indeed last translation commit is indeed much smaller!!!!
>> Less than 1k lines while it used to be about 50k before.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Denis
>>
>> On 29.10.2014 20:49, Werner Macho wrote:
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> I added the suggestion from jef and tried the new produced ts files in
>>> linguist and transifex without any problems ..
>>> So I decided to update everything again (with strings and transifex
>>> update) ..
>>> ts files should now have no location inside any more ..
>>> I hope that shrinks down the size from now on.
>>>
>>> regards
>>> Werner
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 2:56 PM, Stott, James <fmrojst at fylkesmannen.no>
>>> wrote:
>>>> As a slight side point, according to transifex it looks like we could
>>>> have 13 fully translated languages for the GUI by the time 2.6 is released
>>>> (13 languages are on 99% or more). 15 languages are over 95%. This is
>>>> excellent news.
>>>>
>>>> Is it something we should publise, maybe add to the visual changelog?
>>>>
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>>>> Fra: qgis-tr-bounces at lists.osgeo.org
>>>> [mailto:qgis-tr-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] På vegne av Werner Macho
>>>> Sendt: 29. oktober 2014 14:15
>>>> Til: Denis Rouzaud
>>>> Kopi: QGIS Translation Discussions; qgis-developer
>>>> Emne: Re: [Qgis-tr] [Qgis-developer] size of translations, use a distinct
>>>> repo?
>>>>
>>>> hmm - ok ..
>>>> Then I am going to give it a try without location and see if there are
>>>> any problems with transifex or linguist ..
>>>> If not - I also think that way is perfect ..
>>>>
>>>> regards
>>>> Werner
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 2:11 PM, Denis Rouzaud <denis.rouzaud at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> On 29.10.2014 14:06, Werner Macho wrote:
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>>>>>> Good idea,
>>>>>> if its really translation that causes the growth we should do
>>>>>> everything to avoid that.
>>>>> As Jurgen noticed, there are some useless changes in the ts files:
>>>>>
>>>>>        <message>
>>>>> -        <location filename="../src/core/qgscontexthelp_texts.cpp"
>>>>> line="327"/>
>>>>> +        <location filename="../src/core/qgscontexthelp_texts.cpp"
>>>>> line="319"/>
>>>>>
>>>>> if there are lines removed/added in the source file, this will cause
>>>>> changes in the translation file.
>>>>> Jurgen suggested to remove these tags "location filename" which would
>>>>> improve a lot.
>>>>>> Is there any way to "shrink" the already existing repo?
>>>>>> At one point I thought about zipping the ts files - but if there is a
>>>>>> better way .. good!
>>>>>> I always wondered why the whole translations file has to be changed
>>>>>> whenever there are only some small changes ..
>>>>>> moving the translation in it's own github repository: hmm - I don't
>>>>>> know if thats easily possible.. but I am also willing to try it if it
>>>>>> helps the source code to stay clean.
>>>>> I don't see any reason why it wouldn't be possible.
>>>>> git submodules would be pretty useful for this matter.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But again - anyway to shrink the already existing source code?
>>>>> As far as I know, you can't shrink existing repo without destroying
>>>>> the history.
>>>>>> I don't mind about loosing track of translation changes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> regards
>>>>>> Werner
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/29/2014 12:15 PM, Jürgen E. Fischer wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Denis,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, 29. Oct 2014 at 11:08:16 +0100, Denis Rouzaud wrote:
>>>>>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>>>>> I guess this is just due to the "location filename" stuff.  That
>>>>>>> often causes massive change in the ts files, because lines were
>>>>>>> added or removed from the source files - even if there isn't even a
>>>>>>> changed translation.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think that is not used at all for transifex and it's not that
>>>>>>> important to have in linguist either.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So instead of inventing something new, all it takes might be to add
>>>>>>> "-locations none" to our lupdate call, reduce the size of the .ts
>>>>>>> files a lot (in one huge commit) and avoid useless tracking of
>>>>>>> location changes in the future.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Objections?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jürgen
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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