[QGIS-Developer] LTR management [was Re: Delaying 3.10.1?]

[kimaidou]

HI,
I totally agree with Nathan on this topic.
Regards,
Michaël

Le sam. 23 nov. 2019 à 13:37, Nathan Woodrow <madmanwoo at gmail.com> a écrit :

> Hey,
>
> I know it has been said before, but changing the GDAL/Proj version of the
> LTR versions is really a no go. It's a breaking change in terms of possible
> breakages and just increases risks on a version we need to stay stable.
>
> We are communicating to users they should use the LTR because it's stable
> but changing the major dependencies under the hood with new versions breaks
> this trust and message.  It would be like changing the Qt version inside an
> LTR point release, we just can't do it because it's a full major change
> with massive impacts.   The risk of the LTR running on older stacks is seen
> as a net positive not a negative when it comes to stability for users.
>  The moment we break this trust we lose all the work past work we have put
> in to communicate this message, trust is hard to gain and easy to lose.
>
> I'm not sure what the solution here is because I know OSGeo4w doesn't
> really support that kind of separation yet but if we have a way to fund
> this kind of work I would really like us to consider it (unsure the state
> of the budget but this one is critical IMO).  It's going to be an ongoing
> issue and something that will always have to be resolved with each LTR as
> it moves away from the nightlies with the  dependencies  changing.   I wish
> I had the skills and time to help fix this but at the moment all I can
> offer is my concern.
>
> Regards,
> Nathan
>
> On Sat, Nov 23, 2019 at 10:26 PM Tim Sutton <tim at kartoza.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> We also have situations like this [1] where we are breaking the LTR with.
>> Big bumps in GDAL/PROJ version.
>>
>> Could we either a) invest QGIS bug fixing money into resolving these or
>> b) adopt a more conservative approach to adopting new versions of libraries?
>>
>> [1]https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/issues/32953
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> On 23 Nov 2019, at 11:23, Paolo Cavallini <cavallini at faunalia.it> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Tim,
>>
>> Il 23/11/19 11:22, Tim Sutton ha scritto:
>>
>>
>> For windows at least we could ‘freeze’ 3.4.x by pointing them to use the
>> standalone installers but then we have an LTR that is not getting bug
>> fixes. As I read Jürgen’s roadmap [1] we still have 4 more bug fix
>> releases of 3.4 before 3.10 becomes LTR, which is quite a long time to
>> have our ’stable’ version out there with no bug fixes.
>>
>>
>> yes, that's what I meant. It's a kind of bad hack, so as Bas also
>> pointed out the proper solution is just to go ahead and fix the bugs.
>> I feel bad about people wasting their time to fix this compatibility bug
>> that will be useful just for a relatively short period, however.
>> Cheers.
>> --
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