[QGIS-Developer] News panel?

[Paolo Cavallini]

OK, this makes sense to me, thanks for the explanation.
Cheers.

Il 31/10/19 06:26, Nyall Dawson ha scritto:
> On Mon, 28 Oct 2019 at 23:28, Andreas Neumann <a.neumann at carto.net> wrote:
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>> Ok,
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>> Maybe, we just have to get used to this behavior, if this is, how other apps do it ... Still strange though to me.
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>> One issue though: what happens, if we revise the content of the news entry, just like we just did? Then the user has no chance in reading that revised version.
> 
> I can't remember if it was a public discussion, but I did at least
> discuss this with Alessandro somewhere :P
> 
> The thoughts were:
> 
> 1. If a minor fix is made (e.g. spelling or formatting correction),
> then we don't want to re-show that news item for any user who has
> already read and dismissed it. On the backend this means you just edit
> the existing item without publishing a new one.
> 2. if it's a big retraction (e.g. wrong date for a conference), then
> we should publish an explicit retraction/errata notice, so that users
> who have previously read the news item will be explicitly informed
> that they've been mis-informed!
> 
> Nyall
> 
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>> Andreas
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>> On 2019-10-28 14:20, Tim Sutton wrote:
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>> Hi
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>> On 28 Oct 2019, at 13:15, Andreas Neumann <a.neumann at carto.net> wrote:
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>> Oh - perhaps the news panel is not opening if there is no news that wasn't read yet? That would be a bit strange, UI wise.
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>> Yes it only shows if there is news to read
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>> I think we would have to rethink how the client part of the news panel works. The current behavior that there is no way ever to go back to that news item once you close it through the "X" of that individual news item, is a bit strange. Apparently, I am not the only one who got "trapped" by this behavior.
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>> I think this behaviour is consistent with how other apps do it. I remember visual studio used to have (still has?) a feature like this and ones you dispatched news items, they never came back. That's not to say we couldn't add a toggle that lets you reset your feed history somewhere I guess..
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>> Regards
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> Andreas
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>> On 2019-10-28 14:02, Tim Sutton wrote:
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>> Hi
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>> Oh but that little X is for the news item itself. It means 'I've read this, don't show it to me again' if I understand Alessandro's design intent correctly....
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> On 28 Oct 2019, at 12:38, Andreas Neumann <a.neumann at carto.net> wrote:
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>> Hi,
>>
>> Hm - maybe there is a difference on "how you turn the news panel off". I tried with a new empty profile and it is the same behaviour like on my default profile. Once I press the little "x" icon on the top right of the news panel, there is no way to turn it back on.
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>> On the other hand, if you go to "Settings" --> "Options" --> "General" and use that option to toggle visibility of the News Panel, then I can really turn it on and off as expected.
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>> So, the culprit seems to be the littel "x" Icon on the top right of the News Panel. Once, you use, that, the news panel is gone for good. No easy way to get it back.
>>
>> Andreas
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>> On 2019-10-28 12:12, Tim Sutton wrote:
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>> Hi
>>
>> I just did a fresh install of QGIS 3.10 and it works for me. I will tried toggling the feed off, closing QGIS, opening it, toggling, on, restarting. All worked fine for me (on macOS). Maybe it is a Linux specific issue?
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>> Andreas maybe you can try manually editing settings in your profile to see if it comes back when you remove the flag there?
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> On 28 Oct 2019, at 10:58, Andreas Neumann <a.neumann at carto.net> wrote:
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>> Hm - I seem to have the same issue. Once the "News feed" is disabled I can't seem to get it back. Regardless of the setting in the "Options" --> "General" --> "Show QGIS news feed on welcome pate" dialogue.
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>> That part of the start screen never comes back.
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>> There is something odd with the news feed section on the start screen.
>>
>> Andreas
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>> On 2019-10-28 11:44, Ismail Sunni wrote:
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>> Hi Tim,
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>> I have restarted my QGIS 3.10 several times, but I still couldn't see the Welcome Message or the news panel. I have enabled "Show QGIS news feed on welcome page" and set the Welcome Page on the project launch.
>>
>> I only see the "recent project" and "project template" panel in the beginning.
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>> Thanks!
>>
>> Best regards.
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 10:53 AM Tim Sutton <tim at kartoza.com> wrote:
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>> Hi Folks
>>
>> Please restart your QGIS - Andreas and I have added something. He is making a few tweaks, any suggestions welcome....
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Tim
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>> On 28 Oct 2019, at 07:26, Paolo Cavallini <cavallini at faunalia.it> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> On 10/27/19 11:53 PM, Nyall Dawson wrote:
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>> On Sun, 27 Oct 2019 at 03:40, Jorge Gustavo Rocha <jgr at di.uminho.pt> wrote:
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>>
>> Hi Raymond,
>>
>> You can confirm it by yourself. Just open https://feed.qgis.org/ and you
>> will see the entire news feed.
>>
>>
>> I think we should publish a short "welcome to QGIS 3.10" article
>> (ideally when the change log is ready), so that we've got something to
>> show on first load?
>>
>>
>> fully agreed. Tim already prepared something, probably good to start
>> from that?
>> Cheers.
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