[QGIS-Developer] QGIS for Apple: Intel vs. arm

Andreas Neumann a.neumann at carto.net
Wed Jun 24 03:52:34 PDT 2020


Hi Peter,

Thanks for this feedback.

I remember when Apple switched from PowerPC to Intel that they had kind 
of compatibility/abstraction layer that allowed old software to work on 
the new intel platform. Are there similar plans with the switch to arm?

Andreas

Am 24.06.20 um 11:53 schrieb Peter Petrik:
> Hi,
>
> As building on iOS already works 
> (https://github.com/lutraconsulting/input-sdk/tree/master/ios), I 
> imagine it would be possible to  run another architecture build for 
> MacOS with a similar approach. It is in Apple's interest to facilitate 
> transition to developers. To evaluate how hard it would be, that is 
> more tricky at this point. First of all, Qt has to support this new 
> architecture, I haven't found a statement from them yet if they plan 
> it and when. So even Qt supports it (hopefully from Qt5 releases and 
> not Qt6), we have to build all the deps with the new architecture, 
> which takes some time to create recipes. And of course find a hardware 
> where it all can be built (probably another machine , yes). Not saying 
> that it is very frustrating to do development of such a new package if 
> you do not own such hardware yourself...
>
> P.
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 11:33 AM Régis Haubourg 
> <regis.haubourg at gmail.com <mailto:regis.haubourg at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Hi Andreas,
>     I'm also worried about this move.
>
>     But one way to forward the cost to Apple is now to stop buying macs.
>     Sorry to troll, but the vendor lockin' nightmare they are building
>     is not of the same nature as of the powerpc era.
>     I sold mine because they stopped to support it though it worked
>     very well on the hardware side. And switching to linux on Mac is
>     made hard on purpose.. > never again for me, even if they do
>     really good stuff.
>     I found in LENOVO some durable hardware, easy to repair, hardware
>     that works nicely and avoid me to trash a working computer.
>     Best
>     Régis
>
>
>     Le mer. 24 juin 2020 à 11:11, Andreas Neumann <a.neumann at carto.net
>     <mailto:a.neumann at carto.net>> a écrit :
>
>         Hi all, esp. Peter,
>
>         So I wonder what the new announcement of Apple switching
>         everything from Intel to arm architecture will mean for our
>         project? According to Apple they will switch all of their
>         devices to arm over the next 2 years.
>
>         Will it be a lot of work to adapt the build system to the new
>         processor architecture? It will probably mean that we will
>         need an additional Mac build server for arm architecture in
>         our infrastructure and will have to provide packages for both
>         systems for many years to come ...
>
>         Not so nice for us as a project - can we forward these costs
>         to Apple for that move?
>
>         Greetings,
>         Andreas
>
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