[QGIS-Developer] Stale bot and older requests/issues - possible enhancement

JD L jdaniel.lomenede at gmail.com
Thu Jan 7 05:47:55 PST 2021


My bad, it's a bad translation on my part. I though "gratuit" in French
translated to free (free of charges). I'm totally agree with you. That will
teach me to give my opinion in the language if Shakespeare.

Le jeu. 7 janv. 2021 à 13:55, Stefan Steiger <Steiger at cor-management.ch> a
écrit :

> >> As a user and employee of a French administration, I think what is proposed would be an excellent reminder. Open source is not free.
>
>
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> Wrong on so many levels.
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> First: GPL = Free Software
>
> So since the license of QGIS is GPL, it’s free software.
>
> “Free Software” means that along with the software, you get the source
> code for free, included in that is the freedom to change and redistribute
> it.
>
> Free as in Freedom. That does not mean it’s gratis.
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>
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> Second: “OpenSource” is not the same as 'Free Software'
>
> “OpenSource” merely means you have the source.
>
> It doesn’t mean you’re allowed to change or redistribute it.
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> It also doesn’t mean it’s gratis.
>
> So “OpenSource” is much worse than GPL./ 'Free Software'.
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>
>
> Third misconception:
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> Free (as in freedom) doesn’t mean it’s gratis.
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> It just means you have the freedom to alter and redistribute the software,
> provided you abide by the license’s requirements, which means granting the
> same right to others.
>
> It also doesn’t mean somebody else does your work for you, or pays
> somebody else to do your work for you.
>
> Therefore QGIS is indeed free, just not gratis.
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>
>
> What you mean to say is that Free is not Gratis.
>
> That’s a truism/platitude.
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> Also, if you use commercial software, you pay far more for the same, and
> you don’t have ANY guarantee that ANY bug is fixed, even if you can pay.
>
> You also cannot usually pay anyone else than the original company to do
> some work on it, even if somebody else could do the same work far cheaper.
>
> With commercial software, you also don’t have any guarantee that the
> product isn’t discontinued tomorrow, or taken into a completely different
> direction.
>
>
>
> As with plugins:
>
> As long as they are NOT distributed with the software BY DEFAULT, they
> don’t necessarily have to abide by the GPL.
>
> As long as you only use it internally (e.g. on a WebServer), you don’t
> have to abide by the terms of the GPL (the Affero
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affero_General_Public_License>/Application-Service-Provider
> loophole).
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> *Von:* QGIS-Developer <qgis-developer-bounces at lists.osgeo.org> *Im
> Auftrag von *JD L
> *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 7. Januar 2021 10:10
> *An:* Matthias Kuhn <matthias at opengis.ch>
> *Cc:* qgis-developer <qgis-developer at lists.osgeo.org>
> *Betreff:* Re: [QGIS-Developer] Stale bot and older requests/issues -
> possible enhancement
>
>
>
> Hi
>
> As a user and employee of a French administration, I think what is proposed would be an excellent reminder. Open source is not free.
>
>
>
> Le jeu. 7 janv. 2021 à 09:33, Matthias Kuhn <matthias at opengis.ch> a
> écrit :
>
> Hi Nyall,
>
>
>
> I would also appreciate a hint like this.
>
> Maybe it could be done even more subtle by shortening this text and adding
> a link to a page "learn how to make things progress"?
>
>
>
> I'd also very much appreciate the voices of users on this topic (that's a
> classical "we don't only want to hear the dev side" topic).
>
>
>
> Matthias
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 1:42 AM Nyall Dawson <nyall.dawson at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi list,
>
> I've a small request to consider for stale bot and issues/feature
> requests. I think that if a ticket remains open for say > 90 days
> since the last comment, it would be nice if stale bot added a comment
> like:
>
> "Unfortunately this bug/feature request has not seen any solution in
> the recent QGIS release. If this fix/feature is important to you or
> your organisation, you can help to fast-track its development by
> sponsoring this work. To do so, contact one of the QGIS commercial
> support providers listed at ... to discuss how you could fund this
> functionality".
>
> I think it's a non-threatening, non-begging way to advise bug
> reporters on the alternative ways they can fast track development in
> QGIS.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Nyall
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