[Qgis-psc] Changing our default response to requests/bugs?

Neumann, Andreas a.neumann at carto.net
Wed Jul 27 22:21:39 PDT 2016


Hi Nyall, 

Sounds like a good response to me. 

Much better than raising false expectations that only if you report a
bug it will be somehow magically fixed by someone in a reasonable time,
without the reporter having to do anything. Or a feature request
implemented. 

Is the idea to have this wording at our webpage and just point to this
link if someone asks about an issue? 

Andreas 

On 2016-07-28 00:32, Nyall Dawson wrote:

> Hi PSC,
> 
> Just wanted to raise something which has been on my mind lately.
> Whenever someone asks a feature request or reports a bug via the
> mailing lists our default response is along the lines "Please report
> this at hub.qgis.org".
> 
> However... we receive an (estimated) average of 4-5 new tickets on hub
> a day, and we're lucky if in a good week we see maybe 2 or 3 bug
> tickets fixed and maybe a feature request ticket closed once a
> fortnight. As a consequence the number of tickets is continually
> growing, and at the current rate there's no chance we'll ever get this
> under control.
> 
> I personally find the "open a ticket" response too passive. It shifts
> responsibility back to the QGIS project to fix these tickets. I'd like
> us to revise our default response so that the responsibility for
> FIXING/IMPLEMENTING the ticket is left in the hands of the original
> reporter - implying that it's up to them to put the work/funds in to
> get the ticket closed, NOT some magical process which occurs just
> because they've filed the ticket.
> 
> Here's the kind of response I think we should use:
> 
> "Thanks for reporting this. I've confirmed that this is a bug/missing
> feature which should be addressed in QGIS. There's a couple of ways
> you can make this happen:
> 
> 1. If you've got development skills - dive into the source code and
> make the change! You'll find the QGIS team is very open to new
> contributors and will readily lend a hand if you need assistance
> navigating the source or for advise on the best way to make these
> changes. Just ask!
> 
> 2. Sponsor a developer to make the change for you! Contact one of the
> companies listed on
> https://www.qgis.org/en/site/forusers/commercial_support.html who
> offer QGIS development and ask for a quote/proposal for the changes.
> 
> 3. If option 2 isn't practical for you, you could organise your own
> crowd-funding campaign to distribute the costs of the development.
> Checking with local QGIS user groups or opening a thread on the user
> mailing list to see if there's others who would like to contribute to
> the fix is a great place to start.
> 
> QGIS is a community driven project, so it's up to you how you want to
> proceed to get this bug fixed/feature implemented.
> 
> If you've got any questions, just ask... we're a friendly team!"
> 
> This response clearly puts the responsibility BACK to the reporter
> that they need to do the work to get things into QGIS, and that filing
> a ticket alone is not sufficient.
> 
> What do you think? I think a similar but tweaked response could also
> be used when people use the "SOMEONE should fund this!" line...
> basically to push it back to them and say "well, if it's valuable to
> you, then YOU should fund this!" (not some anonymous benefactor!).
> 
> Nyall
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