[Qgis-psc] Post loomio... how to vote?

Paolo Cavallini cavallini at faunalia.it
Sun Mar 29 08:22:26 PDT 2020


Hi all.
My conclusion is this particular one is too complex for uor capabilities:
https://wiki.debian.org/Secretary/StartAVote
https://vote.debian.org/~secretary/devotee.git
Anonimity is a serious concern IMHO, however.
Cheers.

Il 28/03/20 18:42, Paolo Cavallini ha scritto:
> Hi all,
> one further issue: until now we didn't consider voters anonymity. AFAIK
> the only free system that guarantees anonymity is the one used by
> Debian. It looks complex, I'm studying whether it is realistic to use it
> with a reasonable effort.
> Cheers.
> 
> Il 28/03/20 10:19, Paolo Cavallini ha scritto:
>> Hi Matthias, all
>>
>> Il 27/03/20 10:03, Matthias Kuhn ha scritto:
>>
>>> I would appreciate if we could add a place to discuss to the
>>> requirements. For example at the last AGM a lot of people left comments
>>> on the voting about the release cycle next to their vote. Google Forms
>>> (etc.) are nice for surveys, but IMHO not very well suited for an AGM.
>>
>> agreed: comments are as much important as votes, if not more
>>
>>> For the current one, I am hoping for a good discussion about the
>>> environmental policy. I think for this discussion is at least as
>>> important as the decision itself. Also the AGM should help to create
>>> harden bonds within the community and act as a constructive place to put
>>> forward new ideas.
>>
>> totally agreed: discussion is the very heart of democracy, and democracy
>> is one of our fundamental values. Actually I was surprised by the
>> relative lack of response in last year's AGM. Would someone from PSC
>> help stimulating the discussion?
>>
>>> For me, having this discussion at the same place where the voting itself
>>> takes place (and not on a separate mailing list) helps to streamline the
>>> discussion. It also helps to make sure that all voting members read
>>> through the discussion when voting and even those unfamiliar with
>>> mailing lists know where to comment.
>>
>> I'm not sure about this: I think most of us are quite used to use ML for
>> discussion, and I do not see a big problem in having a separate platform
>> for the end result, i.e. voting. What I like of ML is that the whole
>> discussion is automatically archived, and available over the years. I do
>> not have an easy way, for instance, to find back last year's discussion
>> on Loomio. Of course, I'm totally open: if there are better tools, let's
>> use them, keeping in mind the very sensible note from Andreas about
>> having a too complex infrastructure.
>>
>>> DemocracyOS looks like a very eligible alternative to loomio. Did
>>> someone make a test with it, the demo unfortunately does not seem to be
>>> running?
>>
>> Right, known bug: https://github.com/DemocracyOS/democracyos/issues/1654
>>
>>> And for the record, what is the cost for sticking to loomio?
>>
>> https://help.loomio.org/en/subscriptions/pricing/
>> Basic plan 1 $ per person per month. Unclear whther we can activate it
>> just for the AGM month.
>>
>> Cheers.
>>
> 

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