[Qgis-psc] [VOTE] Re: AGM voting: invalid votes

Marco Bernasocchi marco at qgis.org
Sat May 2 09:11:22 PDT 2020


We could do that, we need to check in the charter and previous
communications if it is not said somewhere that the votes are anonymous.
We need to be sure that we'd not break anybody's trust by maybe changing
a policy.

let's discuss it Tuesday.

Cheers

Marco

On 02.05.20 17:33, Tim Sutton wrote:
> Hi
>
> Why don’t we already publish the list of voters and their votes (with
> email addresses removed) somewhere e.g. in the AGM minutes. That way
> all voters can confirm that their vote was registered as intended, and
> members of the country groups can confirm that their collective vote
> was recorded as expected?
>
> Regards
>
> Tim
>
>> On 2 May 2020, at 12:51, Andreas Neumann <andreas at qgis.org
>> <mailto:andreas at qgis.org>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Marco,
>>
>> My comments are inline.
>>
>> On Sat, 2 May 2020 at 13:22, Marco Bernasocchi <marco at qgis.org
>> <mailto:marco at qgis.org>> wrote:
>>
>>     Hi All, 
>>
>>     On 02.05.20 11:20, Andreas Neumann wrote:
>>>
>>>     Hi,
>>>
>>>     I kind of compare our voting members with a parliament. Because
>>>     voting members are representatives of other people,
>>>
>>     only half of the voting members represent other people
>>
>>
>> One could really argue about this. Our contributor community is much
>> larger than we have community voting members. Also, the community
>> votes for their voting members to represent the whole community. So
>> in this sense, all voting members vote on behalf of a larger
>> community they represent.
>>  
>>
>>>     it is important that these votes are public and not anonymous.
>>>     All votes of parliament members are public (at least in many
>>>     countries). In Switzerland there is a website that publishes all
>>>     votes of all parliament
>>>     members: https://www.parlament.ch/de/ratsbetrieb/abstimmungen/wer-hat-wie-abgestimmt-im-nationalrat (available
>>>     in german, french, italian - no english). There you can filter
>>>     by party, topic, people, etc. - it is important that these votes
>>>     are public, so one can decide which persons to re-elect or check
>>>     if the voting member voted as promised to the people they represent.
>>>
>>>
>>>     I think anonymous voting would be important if all our end users
>>>     would have a vote.
>>>
>>     as above, half of the people are end users.
>>>
>>>     Does this make sense to you?
>>>
>>     to me both options are ok, we just need to decide. it is just a
>>     bit weird for me being candidate and taking care of the
>>     correctness of the votes. 
>>
>>
>> I agree here. As Paolo said, we could  have 2 people outside of PSC
>> to take care about a correct voting.
>>  
>>
>>>     Even if we decided to go anonymous, this would be technically
>>>     difficult as Tim said.
>>>
>>     not really, it depends on the solution we use. With loomio we can
>>     do anonymous voting [0] for logged in users. They have a whole
>>     guide on how to run virtual AGM's [0]
>>
>> That's good to know that a technical solution exists, should we
>> decide that we want anonymous voting.
>>  
>> Andreas
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>
> *Tim Sutton*
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Marco Bernasocchi

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