[Qgis-psc] [VOTE] Re: AGM voting: invalid votes

[Andreas Neumann]

Hi,

We can discuss it in the next meeting. But I am also reluctant, as we 
didn't communicate it in advance. Not ideal. We can start doing next 
year and clearly tell people about it.

Andreas

Am 02.05.20 um 18:11 schrieb Marco Bernasocchi:
>
> We could do that, we need to check in the charter and previous 
> communications if it is not said somewhere that the votes are 
> anonymous. We need to be sure that we'd not break anybody's trust by 
> maybe changing a policy.
>
> let's discuss it Tuesday.
>
> Cheers
>
> Marco
>
> On 02.05.20 17:33, Tim Sutton wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> Why don’t we already publish the list of voters and their votes (with 
>> email addresses removed) somewhere e.g. in the AGM minutes. That way 
>> all voters can confirm that their vote was registered as intended, 
>> and members of the country groups can confirm that their collective 
>> vote was recorded as expected?
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Tim
>>
>>> On 2 May 2020, at 12:51, Andreas Neumann <andreas at qgis.org 
>>> <mailto:andreas at qgis.org>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Marco,
>>>
>>> My comments are inline.
>>>
>>> On Sat, 2 May 2020 at 13:22, Marco Bernasocchi <marco at qgis.org 
>>> <mailto:marco at qgis.org>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     Hi All,
>>>
>>>     On 02.05.20 11:20, Andreas Neumann wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     Hi,
>>>>
>>>>     I kind of compare our voting members with a parliament. Because
>>>>     voting members are representatives of other people,
>>>>
>>>     only half of the voting members represent other people
>>>
>>>
>>> One could really argue about this. Our contributor community is much 
>>> larger than we have community voting members. Also, the community 
>>> votes for their voting members to represent the whole community. So 
>>> in this sense, all voting members vote on behalf of a larger 
>>> community they represent.
>>>
>>>>     it is important that these votes are public and not anonymous.
>>>>     All votes of parliament members are public (at least in many
>>>>     countries). In Switzerland there is a website that publishes
>>>>     all votes of all parliament
>>>>     members:https://www.parlament.ch/de/ratsbetrieb/abstimmungen/wer-hat-wie-abgestimmt-im-nationalrat(available
>>>>     in german, french, italian - no english). There you can filter
>>>>     by party, topic, people, etc. - it is important that these
>>>>     votes are public, so one can decide which persons to re-elect
>>>>     or check if the voting member voted as promised to the people
>>>>     they represent.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     I think anonymous voting would be important if all our end
>>>>     users would have a vote.
>>>>
>>>     as above, half of the people are end users.
>>>>
>>>>     Does this make sense to you?
>>>>
>>>     to me both options are ok, we just need to decide. it is just a
>>>     bit weird for me being candidate and taking care of the
>>>     correctness of the votes.
>>>
>>>
>>> I agree here. As Paolo said, we could have 2 people outside of PSC 
>>> to take care about a correct voting.
>>>
>>>>     Even if we decided to go anonymous, this would be technically
>>>>     difficult as Tim said.
>>>>
>>>     not really, it depends on the solution we use. With loomio we
>>>     can do anonymous voting [0] for logged in users. They have a
>>>     whole guide on how to run virtual AGM's [0]
>>>
>>> That's good to know that a technical solution exists, should we 
>>> decide that we want anonymous voting.
>>> Andreas
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ---
>>
>> *Tim Sutton*
>> tim at qgis.org <mailto:tim at qgis.org>
>>
>>
>>
>>
> -- 
> Marco Bernasocchi
>
> QGIS.org Co-chair
> http://berna.io
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