[Qgis-psc] [VOTE] Re: AGM voting: invalid votes

[Tim Sutton]

Sounds good to me.

Regards

Tim

On Sat, 2 May 2020, 17:28 Andreas Neumann, <a.neumann at carto.net> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> We can discuss it in the next meeting. But I am also reluctant, as we
> didn't communicate it in advance. Not ideal. We can start doing next year
> and clearly tell people about it.
>
> Andreas
> Am 02.05.20 um 18:11 schrieb Marco Bernasocchi:
>
> We could do that, we need to check in the charter and previous
> communications if it is not said somewhere that the votes are anonymous. We
> need to be sure that we'd not break anybody's trust by maybe changing a
> policy.
>
> let's discuss it Tuesday.
>
> Cheers
>
> Marco
> On 02.05.20 17:33, Tim Sutton wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> Why don’t we already publish the list of voters and their votes (with
> email addresses removed) somewhere e.g. in the AGM minutes. That way all
> voters can confirm that their vote was registered as intended, and members
> of the country groups can confirm that their collective vote was recorded
> as expected?
>
> Regards
>
> Tim
>
> On 2 May 2020, at 12:51, Andreas Neumann <andreas at qgis.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Marco,
>
> My comments are inline.
>
> On Sat, 2 May 2020 at 13:22, Marco Bernasocchi <marco at qgis.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>> On 02.05.20 11:20, Andreas Neumann wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I kind of compare our voting members with a parliament. Because voting
>> members are representatives of other people,
>>
>> only half of the voting members represent other people
>>
>
> One could really argue about this. Our contributor community is much
> larger than we have community voting members. Also, the community votes for
> their voting members to represent the whole community. So in this sense,
> all voting members vote on behalf of a larger community they represent.
>
>
>> it is important that these votes are public and not anonymous. All votes
>> of parliament members are public (at least in many countries). In
>> Switzerland there is a website that publishes all votes of all parliament
>> members:
>> https://www.parlament.ch/de/ratsbetrieb/abstimmungen/wer-hat-wie-abgestimmt-im-nationalrat
>>  (available in german, french, italian - no english). There you can
>> filter by party, topic, people, etc. - it is important that these votes are
>> public, so one can decide which persons to re-elect or check if the voting
>> member voted as promised to the people they represent.
>>
>>
>> I think anonymous voting would be important if all our end users would
>> have a vote.
>>
>> as above, half of the people are end users.
>>
>> Does this make sense to you?
>>
>> to me both options are ok, we just need to decide. it is just a bit weird
>> for me being candidate and taking care of the correctness of the votes.
>>
>
> I agree here. As Paolo said, we could  have 2 people outside of PSC to
> take care about a correct voting.
>
>
>> Even if we decided to go anonymous, this would be technically difficult
>> as Tim said.
>>
>> not really, it depends on the solution we use. With loomio we can do
>> anonymous voting [0] for logged in users. They have a whole guide on how to
>> run virtual AGM's [0]
>>
> That's good to know that a technical solution exists, should we decide
> that we want anonymous voting.
>
> Andreas
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