[Qgis-psc] Fwd: Financing QGIS through Dev Protocol

Thu Feb 18 02:51:00 PST 2021

Hi,

I also have some concerns about the crypto currency ecosystem, according to
https://digiconomist.net/bitcoin-energy-consumption/ they are a prime
example of wasted resources.

I would recommend staying away from that kind of technology.

On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 12:13 PM Tim Sutton <tim at kartoza.com> wrote:

> Hi
>
> I think if we follow the philosophy: "work with tools we understand" we
> are on safer ground. Yes maybe it is conservative and we miss out on
> opportunities, but we also reduce our risk exposure. So either someone in
> our team needs to be willing to deep dive on this stuff or I suggest we
> just leave it alone for now.
>
> Regards
>
> Tim
>
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 7:34 PM Andreas Neumann <a.neumann at carto.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Anita,
>>
>> I'm also sceptical ... if I don't understand a system - and if the
>> website about such a system can't explain it in a few simple sentences ...
>>
>> But maybe I am growing old ... and a bit conservative ...
>>
>> Andreas
>>
>> On 2021-02-12 19:25, Anita Graser wrote:
>>
>> Hi Andreas,
>>
>> The website certainly looks fancy and uses lots of jargon to sound
>> impress readers. I'm not sure what's behind it / if it's a scam.
>>
>> I cannot find any good description of Etherscan DEV tokens. For example,
>> are  the mined like Bitcoin by wasting huge amounts of energy? That would
>> be completely against our project ethics.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Anita
>>
>>
>> On 12.02.2021 18:35, Andreas Neumann wrote:
>>
>> Forwarding this information to the PSC list. I can't say that I
>> understand the Dev prorocol system, how it works.
>>
>> But it is the second time, that someone suggests involving one of these
>> modern, virtual currencies, tokens, etc.
>>
>> Anyone interested in examining this system and explain how it works? I
>> don't know what DEV is (some kind of currency?) And APY?
>>
>> Andreas
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>> From: *pdotal* <pdotal at protonmail.com>
>> Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2021 at 18:25
>> Subject: Re: Financing QGIS through Dev Protocol
>> To: Andreas Neumann <andreas at qgis.org>
>>
>>
>> Dear Andreas,
>>
>> Thank you for your reply.
>>
>> So, with Dev Protocol QGIS could just authenticate their Github and list
>> the project in stakes.social, the community or any other investors
>> interested in QGIS could then buy DEV, the native token of the platform and
>> stake them in the project. QGIS would get 30% Annual Percentage Yield and
>> the community would get close to 29% APY as of now.
>>
>> So for community members it's way more interesting to us to get paid
>> while supporting QGIS, and unlike donations, we don't lose our money. The
>> only possible drawback that this platform has is that it's financed by this
>> token that is listed in an open market, so the value is not fixed. But,
>> since it's just starting and the potential is astronomical, in my opinion,
>> it's not really a drawback because the token will most likely appreciate a
>> lot.
>>
>> Just to make it clear with an example, Vyperlang -  is a
>> contract-oriented, pythonic programming language that targets the Ethereum
>> Virtual Machine (EVM) - listed their project on stakes.social a few months
>> ago and they've got 18,000 DEVs in rewards, which they sold close to
>> $100,000.
>>
>> If QGIS was listed there I would definitely stake in the project, and
>> that could generate, at current prices, close $2000 a month just from
>> myself! I'm sure a lot of members of the community would rather do this
>> than donate. Also, the Dev Protocol community would also love to help big
>> projects like QGIS, so it's definitely a great way to get financing.
>>
>> I'd love to hear what you think,
>>
>> P.
>>
>>
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>> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
>> On Friday, February 12, 2021 10:29 AM, Andreas Neumann <andreas at qgis.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Dear P.,
>>
>> Thank you for your suggestion about using devprotocol.xyz.
>>
>> Can you please describe in a few sentences what this devprotocol.xyz
>> thing is about? I understand this has to do with electronic currencies like
>> Ethereum. How does this work in practice - what does it mean for us as a
>> community, what effort does it take to participate and what benefit can be
>> expected from this system. Do our users have drawback when we participate
>> in this system?
>>
>> Thank you for explaining the system in a few simple sentences.
>>
>> Andreas
>>
>> On Fri, 12 Feb 2021 at 11:54, 'pdotal' via finance <finance at qgis.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hey,
>>
>> I'm a member of the community, I used QGIS a lot back in Uni, and use it
>> everyday in my work. I can't afford to donate straight to the project
>> though, I've found out and I'm currently using Dev Protocol to finance
>> projects, they're really great because not only the project creators get
>> sustainably funded but the community also gets paid!
>>
>> I'd love if you guys could integrate QGIS into Dev Protocol, that way I
>> could stake all of my DEVs to provide you guys with funding and I'm sure
>> there are thousands of community members that would do the same if this
>> option was available! Their incentives really broaden the community base
>> that's willing to fund the project.
>>
>> Here are their websites:
>> https://devprotocol.xyz/
>> https://stakes.social/
>>
>> I really want to hear back from you, what do you think about this?
>>
>> Thanks for the attention,
>>
>> P.
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>>
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