[Qgis-psc] MacOS maintenance

[Marco Bernasocchi]

Indeed it was on my pending list, sorry Denis not to have answered you yet.
It has been a pretty packed 2 months. On the last PSC we decided, as
Andreas wrote, that you should go ahead with this, I was just looking at
the minutes meeting and Andreas answered faster :)

So please go ahead and do as much as you can.

Cheers Marco

On Mon, 4 Apr 2022 at 09:29, Andreas Neumann <andreas at qgis.org> wrote:

> Hi Denis,
>
> Yes - we discussed this in the March meeting. Marco had a TODO item to
> inform you. Apparently - this did not happen ;-( There are more TODO items
> from Marco that seem to concern you (e.g. Qt for Python) - you need to talk
> to him!
>
> We decided that you can start with the 5k € budget (take it over from
> Lutra) - and that we need to plan ahead for the 2023 budget.
>
> Also, as I said, probably in June, I know more about our income side and
> we can see if we can spend more on MacOS packaging (beyond the 5k in the
> 2022 budget) in the second half of the year 2022.
>
> Thanks,
> Andreas
>
> On Mon, 4 Apr 2022 at 09:15, Denis Rouzaud <denis.rouzaud at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Dear PSC,
>>
>> Is there any news on this front?
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Denis
>>
>> Le jeu. 10 févr. 2022 à 11:49, Denis Rouzaud <denis.rouzaud at gmail.com> a
>> écrit :
>>
>>> Dear PSC,
>>>
>>>
>>> After some internal discussions at OPENGIS.ch, I would like to raise my
>>> interest and motivation for being involved in the MacOS packaging and
>>> maintenance.
>>>
>>>
>>> It has been already discussed with Peter who is happy to step back from
>>> macos maintenance.
>>>
>>> As a small recap of the technical situation, the current dependency
>>> build system is based on an old work from Matthias, Osgeo4a. It has been
>>> used until recently for QField too, but was switched to a generic and
>>> actively maintained package management system: Microsoft’s vcpkg because of
>>> the huge maintenance overhead.
>>>
>>> A complete rewrite of the current dependencies build system sounds
>>> premature though.
>>>
>>> I would like to propose the following approach:
>>>
>>>    -
>>>
>>>    We get involved into the packaging for MacOS, taking over current
>>>    Lutra’s assignment for 2022
>>>    -
>>>
>>>    We spend the available time in budget (5000 € at 110€/h, including
>>>    the notarization, correct me if I’m wrong) to
>>>    -
>>>
>>>       update the deps to a recent state
>>>       -
>>>
>>>       build and bundle next releases 3.24+
>>>       -
>>>
>>>       try to bring the notarization with this release
>>>       -
>>>
>>>       try to bring the build of deps and maybe QGIS into a CI
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    -
>>>
>>>    I believe this would be very difficult with the available time, and
>>>    would propose to report back when I reach 80% of the budget. We would then
>>>    discuss on the possible approaches (financing, an official sponsorship from
>>>    OPENGIS.ch, maybe some “free” work from other contributors)
>>>
>>>
>>> For the future, we believe that the maintenance of the dependency
>>> management system should not be on QGIS alone and instead should be
>>> mutualized among platforms, developers and with the industry. Be it vcpkg
>>> or something else, we should introduce an actively maintained solution.
>>> This is a future yet unplanned work, but I would like to mention this to
>>> clearly state our vision regarding the optimal solution after 2022.
>>>
>>> Last but not least is the question of the arm packages for MacOS. I
>>> think that I would be able to bring a roadmap and work estimation once I’ve
>>> worked a bit more on our packaging system. I think we could plan something
>>> before the end of the year.
>>>
>>> What are your thoughts regarding the finances for these two things
>>> (dependency management system and arm packages for QGIS)? Is this something
>>> that must be postponed to 2023 or would it still be possible this year?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Please let me know your thoughts.
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>>
>>> Denis
>>>
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